frisbeehead
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Posted : Jun 26, 2014 05:03
That's interesting. In Logic there's a functionality called "capture recording" that enables you to play some notes on a keyboard while listening and then hit a button (or press some keys) and the software recalls the notes you played, and also does save multiple takes of it if you're playing over a loop.
Seems like he's using something similar, not sure how you set it up in Ableton btw. This is an interesting approach, but no wonder he's got more then one laptop in there - this kind of stuff takes some serious resources to be reliable to use on stage. That's always a factor as well. Whenever there's money for it, or even more outrageous setups like Beardyman's artists can take more adventurous paths and really go the extra mile and create something unique on stage. Maybe, to some degree, it also depends on how much money people are making with the gigs, even just to justify carrying around a lot of hardware (not even including the lights and video stuff...).
It would be nice that the economic side of things allowed for this kind of approaches, it doesn't entirely depend on the artists. I bet we'd all love to be able to get some hardware and take the time to design some interesting personalised setup for live usage. I'd certainly love to see more synths on stage, would love to see some modulars on live shows, or people using the latest and outlandish controllers or sensors even - there's a lot to experiment with these days. But it comes with a price, and most people simply can't afford it.
We should challenge the notion that there's only money behind bad music, artists that sold their souls to the devil. Money, on a culture with such values as the psychedelic culture, should go where the quality is. And what best use for money then allowing art to develop a few steps further? Today it almost smells like resistance already, there's not much oxigene is there?
I still think that's within psytrance that the synths get their test drives properly done, if you guys know what I mean. It would make a lot of sense to be able to see some on most stages. Some analogue also has that little something that's almost mystical, right? (please no analogue vs digital, I said mystical, live with it)More of that would be welcome on stage as well.
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Posted : Jun 26, 2014 06:31
I think it's a good idea to create a thread with inspiring live acts, in various genres.
it's much more constructive than keep posting out bad examples... on fake acts.
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Posted : Jun 26, 2014 07:33
good exemple REAL ACT
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Posted : Jul 1, 2014 17:54
I'm with Colin 100% on this, the majority of live acts these days is simply a producer pressing play on a pre-cued set list in Ableton Live, maybe because they use live they are allowed to call the it a live performance.
Lets be realistic a live set should incorporate some form of live manipulation of the music, this way each performance is slightly different and unique. It is no easy thing preparing a live set, it takes time and practice but ultimately it sets people apart from the those who just press play.
https://soundcloud.com/pro-gram-0
the fact of having to mix the tracks live, it gives another vibe to the performances imo.
that's valid for all genres and subgenres.
and also for live acts. if they don't want to do complex things with their laptops, at least do some real time mix.
that will make each performance somehow unique. it's not like droppin the same exact pre-sequenced tracks in several gigs...
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Posted : Jul 3, 2014 10:45
frisbeehead
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Posted : Jul 3, 2014 21:55
Best (electronic) performance I know of would be Beardyman, but he's the kind of guy who can dispense with a lot of instruments and samplers, 'cause he can do it on spot with just his voice.
But it's worth a look and good fuel for thought for those feeling more adventurous/ willing to take their performance to another level.
if you're making israel anthem prog trance (not psychedelic) then you need to be able to wave your arms at the crowd and stuff, so you can't mix or play anything live because waving your arms is the most important.
it shows well from the videos you chose splikz! captain hook and whoever the other guy is: commerical craptrance easy listening music by guys who only wants money vs alpha and penta - good guys of the scene who have great skills and understand the music and the vibe of psyparties. ofc they are going to do a nicer performance!
frisbeehead
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Posted : Jul 4, 2014 22:12
There's tons of playback acts out there, sure! People should focus on spicing up their acts with some interaction with the sound, sure!
But what's the point of focusing so much on the negative side of things? What's the point of saying bad things about some artists, regardless of who they are and how they sound, if they do much or nothing on stage? Why focus so much on the negative side of things?
It only seems like there's a lot of frustration going on! Couldn't we focus a little on what an electronic musician could do on stage instead? Just saying...
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