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Acid Mushroom
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splikz
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Posted : Jun 17, 2014 21:50
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OzMike
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Posted : Jun 18, 2014 08:42
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On 2014-06-13 03:21, faxinadu wrote:
lol, of course its you. what a sorry excuse of a wanker you are ozmike eh.
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Your responses to me show you
A) have way too much time on your hands. Maybe you need another lame ass job to whinge about?
B) really do lower yourself to my level with such responses. I suggest you reply in polite well written contexts much suited to your online personality. Please, you are obviously of superior quality and intelligence compared to me so don't lower yourself any further.
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OzMike
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Posted : Jun 18, 2014 08:45
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On 2014-06-15 16:30, frisbeehead wrote:
This thread is trash. What's the point in blatantly attacking people on a public forum? To some, it's their way of living, their style and philosophy, to others it just reads like someone's got big issues that always translate into more and more hate and provocations - as usual. Faxi is obviously right. Moderators are overly relaxed when this has been going for longer then common sense would recommend.
Ducks and retreats back to shelter now...
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You of course a right. I think you see that they tried banning me for over a decade but like cancer I just kept coming back and filling the place with my sickness. The mods just gave. Viva la persistence!!
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Acid Mushroom
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Posted : Jun 19, 2014 02:01
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i'm listening
and dj
I speak what I want |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Jun 19, 2014 02:31
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On 2014-06-18 08:42, OzMike wrote:
[Please, you are obviously of superior quality and intelligence compared to me so don't lower yourself any further.
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this |
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splikz
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 00:18
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don't worry.
fake acts are more acceptable for live acts, who actually spend time in the studio producing the tracks they play.
not like DJs, who play pre-recorded mash-ups... pre-recorded sections, and sometimes entire pre-recorded sets, with tracks that they didn't produce.... that's lame. |
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knocz
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 01:50
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On 2014-06-20 00:18, splikz wrote:
don't worry.
fake acts are more acceptable for live acts, who actually spend time in the studio producing the tracks they play.
not like DJs, who play pre-recorded mash-ups... pre-recorded sections, and sometimes entire pre-recorded sets, with tracks that they didn't produce.... that's lame.
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Completely true.. but unfortunately the amount of artists faking the live is way higher than the DJ's using pre-recorded sets.. so, ultimately the average DJ actually ends up doing more on stage than the average live act  Even with the sync button 
Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz |
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Acid Mushroom
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 03:53
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psytrance is depressing
just geniuses who think they are artists |
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splikz
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 04:45
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On 2014-06-20 01:50, knocz wrote:
so, ultimately the average DJ actually ends up doing more on stage than the average live act Even with the sync button
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people are progressively lowering the standards..
and the crowd (those who matter) are being less and less demanding, performance wise. :/
as long as the music is playing.. no matter how! 
it may be comfortable for the performer. press play has way less risks, it means more fun and freedom on the stage. but it's definitely awkward.
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OzMike
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 08:00
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Saw Carl Cox a few weeks back. Old school vinyl set with 4 decks. That's the way a dj plays. None of this Traktor etc. programmed rubbish. Was good to see a DJ sweat over the deck and bend down focussing.
As for live acts? A local producer was on after Cox with the new Roland TR-8 drum machine and an x0xb0x. That was all. Pumped out some pounding acid and techno. Much nicer than the following act who just stared at a computer probably playing a game while a preloaded Ableton set played.
Who cares what they do in the studio? Should rock & metal bands play fake live? I know for a fact that most top guitarist spend much more time practicing than any electronic producer and the guitarist still has to play live. There's no excuse for this fake bullshit. It's outrageous. Live electronic music globally has become a fucking joke.
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Cerebral Eclipse
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 13:08
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The Dancing\Throwing Cakes\fu*&ing around on stage is obviously awkward for the crowd and other DJs, while on the other side you have people that completely build a track live.
But let me ask you this (about controllers and Sync buttons): although beat mixing takes time to master, its more of a technical task that takes some time. the Sync button allows the DJ a lot more freedom on stage, so is the auto-sync really THAT bad? I mean, if it gives the DJ the time to put it some more interesting synths\FX\edits to a track, maybe the sync demon isn't as evil as we think... |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 15:27
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on another note, this is also true:
no matter what people do and how good they're at it, there's always haters. the internet has give them their stage to shine and spread their hate everywhere. with so much time on their hands, and not liking what current artists are doing, the motivation should be to engage in doing things as they think they should be done, rather then challenging the reputation of those who actually manage to get there and do what they do - for better or worse.
Traktor is great software. it even allows you to play 4 decks of either vinyl or cd-j, or go all the way digital and focus on something else. The technology is there to allow people to do whatever they please with it.
Of course someone that's had a lot of work in the studio has earned his way to the stage. 24 bit alone makes the experience worth it. There's many kinds of artists, some of us are more composers then performers. EM is an orchestration of instruments and sounds. Mozart didn't play all the instruments of one of his operas. The EDM artists are more maestros and composers then they are interpreters or performers. More recently there's software and controllers thought out to allow people to actually interact more with the sound on stage.
You can't have it all. For such a small scene, where people don't get paid like Carl Cox does, you can't exactly expect artists to carry a lot of hardware with them. And as far as computer based performance goes, you need to evaluate the risks of charging the system to far, even though computer power has come a long way and it's possible to do a lot with minimum risk these days - if artists decide to do it. With such complex music as psytrance, chances are you don't quite expect some synthesizer solo like you'd expect Eric Clapton to perform with his guitar, right?
Going to say it again. This just reads like rubbish to me. If someone here doesn't like what artists are doing, then be my guest and do the world a favour by setting an example. Haters are just haters, they're only good at criticising everything and everyone. What good comes from that? SHH |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 17:06
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 20, 2014 19:01
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On 2014-06-20 15:27, frisbeehead wrote:
If someone here doesn't like what artists are doing, then be my guest and do the world a favour by setting an example.
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I can think of acts who do exactly that, for instance a 4-piece band who actually play instruments alongside playback as part of their show, and with quality music and a 20-year global reputation in psytrance, too. But when was the last time you saw anyone like that on a major international lineup? (Hilight Tribe aren't psytrance as such so don't count).
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