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stop calling psy dark
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ocelot
ocelot
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 03:23
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hey
please stop calling all psychedelic trance music "dark"
if its not house music
or old-school-goa
or rave-anthem cheese ahem full-on
(since when did that become a style not an adjective? oh sorry since GMS invented the genre that entire industries are built on today with two seminal albums- "no rules" and "gms vs systembusters"...oh absolum and talamasca helped with that curvy bassline i would say- but HOmmega was still making Old-School-Goa mind you- which was actually pretty good until about FullOnAudio Vol4)
i object to the use of the term "dark" for anything but gothic stuff with screams and horror sounds...while there is much of this to be sure- this is hardly the term i would use for the vast majority of psytrance that is not house or rave-cheese or old-school-goa...
btw there are actually some interesting new progressive sounds that i would have to say give actual meaning to the word progressive and as such- since the word means absolutely nothing anymore- we have to think of a new word... futuristic? forward-moving trance?
hmmmm
and we need another category for artists and music that defy all the BULLSHIT boxes and just make good music that flows seamlessly between worlds and floats across genres like they are NOTHING!
which in fact, THEY ARE!!!! nothing.
but mental boxes invented by highly uncreative people with sticks up their ass.
so much so that one or two will probably contradict me. you just watch
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StoneAge Records
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 03:59
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im getting sick of all this "dark talk" also..
just let it go and all will be fine.. listen and enjoy!
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rajatrao6
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 04:02
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lets call it "NIGHT"...period
even though there is no point classifying anything , some just insist i guess  |
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Sarcasm
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 07:24
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i call it "fry/ing" music... thats what it does.
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exotic
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 07:41
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You guys should listen to some kinetopsya.. totally new funked up sound unlike any I have heard before. Really doesnt fit any category.
I'd rather call the 'dark' - 'hard' or 'nighttime'. Something that not 'fluffy' would become hard , no?
Yeah dark is something that disturbs you and there's hardly any psy that comes even close to disturbing me except maybe the 'thing' by delta. 
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Yidam
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 08:31
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Thats the thing. It's not dark. Its not even night. To me, the music is a look into a brain/system, more apparent when the music is purely psychedelic. Each artist deserves their own genre... as long the music is unique.
So I'm a lazy ass. To refer to the sound as opposed to others... its dark/night-psy/full power.
But within that circle ... its "ocelots square wave ripping through the ground while biomechanic birds twist through the sky" . hard to categorise that.
... hmmm
Heard some of the most mindbending soul colliding sprinting alien hovering brain psychedelic music this weekend... very happy to be connected!
Crazy aliens.. thank you for the sounds .
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Pavel
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 08:45
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There are only 2 kinds of music. Music that i like and music that i don't. Pigeonholing is label owners and journalists' business. Sometimes you need a point of reference to describe the music.
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Allegoric - Psynce
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 08:46
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On 2007-01-22 08:45, Pavel wrote:
There are only 2 kinds of music. Music that i like and music that i don't. Pigeonholing is label owners and journalists' business. Sometimes you need a point of reference to describe the music.
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Truth will always guard our souls......
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lokus
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 09:42
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On 2007-01-22 08:45, Pavel wrote:
There are only 2 kinds of music. Music that i like and music that i don't. Pigeonholing is label owners and journalists' business. Sometimes you need a point of reference to describe the music.
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correct
- last possible solution
- trick music
- ambivalent records
myspace.com/lokuz
ps: y trance?
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DETOX
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 10:37
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Everybody is calling it crap trance anyway so you shouldnt worry about it mate.
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boomshanthi
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 10:43
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On 2007-01-22 10:37, DETOX wrote:
Everybody is calling it crap trance anyway so you shouldnt worry about it mate.
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there are also a lot of people who dont call it crap trance, and love it more than any other style. please pay some respect to others opinions. especially when the comment comes from a label owner.
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Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 11:27
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celsung
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 11:33
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On 2007-01-22 10:37, DETOX wrote:
Everybody is calling it crap trance anyway so you shouldnt worry about it mate.
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there are also a lot of people who dont call it crap trance, and love it more than any other style. please pay some respect to others opinions. especially when the comment comes from a label owner.
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Thank you. That was an excellent response to a chronic whiner. You must be a parent because you handle children really well. |
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Sarcasm
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 11:44
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On 2007-01-22 10:37, DETOX wrote:
Everybody is calling it crap trance anyway so you shouldnt worry about it mate.
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there are also a lot of people who dont call it crap trance, and love it more than any other style. please pay some respect to others opinions. especially when the comment comes from a label owner.
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Thank you. That was an excellent response to a chronic whiner. You must be a parent because you handle children really well.
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Hehhahaha... thats some 200 Bpm "dark" post right there.. make that a track puhleeze 
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ocelot
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Posted : Jan 22, 2007 11:57
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that the thing-
im not even talking about NIGHT trance per se
im talking about psychedelic trance in general!
it seems that the word psychedelic trance has been appropriated by loads of commercial stuff that i would call just trance while anything genuinely psychedelic is somehow considered dark...
which then brings the whole "light vs dark" bullshit up again and then
who DOESNT want to be on the side of goodness, morality, light, and evolution?
well a few kids with 666 posters in their bedrooms etc... but i'm really sick of all this pandering to crap and calling it psy when its NOT remotely psychedelic...
believe me- i say the say for most all of the trance i hear thats formulaic and just not very deep. regardless of the intended stylistic box... then there is some stuff thats just plain good and i like it- and it may cruise across many boxes...
i have full respect for the old-school goa music producers like Hallucinogen, Astral Projection, X-Dream and ESPECIALLY KoxBox/Psychopod/Saikopod...
but lets not forget that music happened about 10 years ago...
last i checked everyone was jumping on this kiddie-rave-cheese-anthem "full-on" whatever the fuck that means bandwagon...
as IF they needed to stoop to that level...
well people are cycled through this scene because it doesn't hold them after some period of time because the music and culture lacks DEPTH because we are always coming from some stupid inferiority complex point-of-view that we need to get more new people etc...
so we get a high turnover rate of people-
and the music goes for a one-dimensional shot of bullshit straight to the gut...
i think its about time we dont just sit there and say "oh yeah everyone has opinions and this and that" and give some proper respect and credit for proper production and good fucking music and stop kissing ass to the altar of POp CRAP calling itself psy.
its not.
This doesn't seem to happen in other scenes so much-
Even the stupidest of pop fans turned their back on Milli Vanilli when it was found to be utter lip synch to others productions.
Vanilla Ice was shown to be the poser he was in even the eyes of the 13 year old fans...
it seems to me that trance has become a total poser format- whether we are talking about Oakenfold Digweed Sasha #1 DJ in the WOrld crap or so called Psychedelic with IM SKazi Astrix etc... where even the inventors of the formulas (GMS etc) have taken a backseat to a new breed of marketing driven drivel...
and most of y'all are buying it according to the numbers! thats the unbelievable part...
and its called PSY!!!!
now before someone gets their underwear in a bundle im NOT talking about GoaGil as the only way to Psy... seriously the way some folks talk its either him or Astrix...
come on! get a life.
there is and has always been PSYCHEDELIC TRANCE music since the beginning and it has never been about hype and never will be...
and i would appreciate having the rightful name back thank you!!!!
its not for sale.
PSYCHEDELIC TRANCE
as in MUSIC that is Trance Inducing and Psychedelic which means Mind Manifesting in ancient Greek thank you!
not Mind Killing or Mind Numbing...
Gads!!!!!
now MY undies are in a bundle...
fuck then. off they come.
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