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technoid


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Posted : Nov 11, 2003 21:20
Just be thankful that Ketamine isn't a big thing on the psy scene. Much as I like the stuff it ruined the tekno parties in the UK. It destroys dancefloors, and it's such a selfish drug to do as it's a totally insular experience, (well, maybe you can share it with maybe one other person, but that's another topic). It was terrible, you'd get people with no sense of where they were or even what they were crashing through the decks, fighting and such like. Funnily enough it mixes really well with Nitrous.

Fun as these drugs can be are I'm not sure how much of a place they have at parties really. They don't really add anything positive. I think it depends largely though, as other people have said, on the people doing those drugs. If you're going to parties to spend the night getting fucked off your ass on Nitrous or Ketamine then you should probably ask yourself what you're doing there. I think it's fun to do a little bit in the morning or whatever, but not so much you're being a pain in the ass to other people.           "One nation under a groove".
The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 11, 2003 21:49
Thanks Elysium, I still haven’t received your answer to my mail, (our previous dispute) ... And my name btw is Daniel!           "Love is a way of life"

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tokyoeye


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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 15:32
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I'm french...and it's very strange to read the n2o problem in israel, because, the use of N20 in party exist for a long time in France.....maybe....before 88 !

First, N20 it's not without danger....(to be member of a label and expert woman in music it's différent about knowledge of the active ingredient)

If u consuming Guarana, spiruline, and particularly vitamins B12, consuming N20 can be dangerous for the kidneys, so the health.
To degrade kidneys, can have of serious repercution on health....

And health is more important than... boom tss bomm tss.....

Second, promoters partys, if u want good vibes in your party, it's better if N20 is not sale in your party.

Often, people make balons with food cartridge.....and there are a lot of iron filings in the container/percolater......open it, and test it with your hand.....and i imagine in your lungs ???!!!!

Can be that France is not the eldorado of the trance, but listen me......here in France, after reflexion, the majority of people and organization do not want to speak any more about N20....and it's better like this !

Good luck....

tokyoeye


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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 15:40
another thing...i saw a lot your pics party in your contry...
and I had noticed the strong use of balloons in your partys....

It's so sad to see it, that gives a bad indication of your partys... Maybe there are pretty and amazing party in your country...but....with an N2O athmosphere....it's a pur crap party.....

I do not have more anything to say about it....
Cyber Punk
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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 15:54
tokyoeye, I suggest you not to make any conclusions only by the pictures.
Come here, go to the party and see by yourself.           -=Lead System Designer=-
tokyoeye


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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 16:03
My dear Cyber Punk,

I was in israel into 98 to see oforia in live....At this time ... I were crazy about this artist....

And I know...the effervessence of your partys......

Rik
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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 16:36
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On 2003-11-09 14:05, Elysium Project wrote:
traveller in Israel it's quite normal that people use ballons with helium (?) in parties to get high on..... weird thing in my opinion. Haven't seen it in any other country. Anyone know if it's unique to Israel?




I've seen balloons in israel belgium holland france portugal england ....

It hasn't caused any problems that i know of, but when you look at the customers that surround these stands... it doesn't look to "good" ... people falling down because they inhaled to much etc ..


as for being harmfull, it is NOT harmfull at all if you mix it with enough oxygene, but i'm afraid most people don't do this because it's more efficient when you don't. Still, it is NOT harmfull when you have enough oxygene with it! this was used as a medical sedative for years and years.
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Ron Lyner
Ron Lyner

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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 20:44
so what its medical sedative ?

mdma used psychologists to "fix" people who had problems with their relations.

and lsd used to help people that had scizophrenia.

and some doctors can give morphine as a sedative too..

so ????
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blue elf

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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 21:21
Quote:

On 2003-11-12 20:44, Ron Lyner wrote:
and lsd used to help people that had scizophrenia.


unfortunatly lsd only help people develope scizophrenia. some psychiatrists thought that if they will take lsd they will understand scizophrenia.
but in general u r right, every drug is also a medicine and vice versa.
Rik
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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 22:01
Quote:

On 2003-11-12 20:44, Ron Lyner wrote:
so what its medical sedative ?

mdma used psychologists to "fix" people who had problems with their relations.

and lsd used to help people that had scizophrenia.

and some doctors can give morphine as a sedative too..

so ????




personally, i do believe some of these narcotics even can have a positive influences when used right.           www.psytracks.com :: Brand new website for sharing your psytracks with the world. Get a free 250Mb Artist profile, Blog and events calender!
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Chaka Laka
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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 23:19
i'm up for the idea with both hands .. doesn't matter the properties of given substance and all the personal preferences .. ppl who bring it - ruin the vibe and the music and that's what party is about ! so , if these 2 things mean to u something - don't touch it even if u like it , and i completely agree with Avishai here ,it's done on personal level . guess that party organaizer that cares about these things - won't let this shit in           Dance is my Trance
Ananda604
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Posted : Nov 13, 2003 21:28
Hey guys... I think this discussion is kinda surfing to other directions..
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russ
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Posted : Nov 14, 2003 15:14
oh, and what directions would you prefer ananda? the direction that you provided with your totally insulting response to a sincere and thoughtful post about a problem that causes this person (and the scene in general) sadness?

saw balloons once, in a thailand new year's party, and it was israeli-provided and consumed (sorry, just the facts) and it was a disgusting site to see. like the worst e-gurners, except with the added insult of seeing a grown man or woman sucking again and again on the end of a children's balloon for that momentary rush associated with oxygen depletion and brain cell death. if you can't see sadness in that situation, there's isn't anything else to say...
Highdude

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Posted : Nov 14, 2003 16:34
Im totaly agree with this shiti habbit, what is that ppl? , whoever knows me Im doing trance for many years when parties just started underground with only 50-100 ppl what i call pure vibe of trance, ok through the years it evolve to something much bigger and commercialise... and cool the trance still going on and always will the question is to what direction?
I never judge but most of the time this ppl and orgenizers do it only for money, its not like old times but some of them still do it from pure love to trance.
About a yr ago i was in a trance party in israel and as the sun came out i saw a huge ballooooon in the middle of the dance floor , ye i saw it because when i danced i got back and suddenly felt a big guy pushing me aside from this huge container, Damn in the middle of the dance floor , they dont respect nada, how can you put it in the middle of the dance floor and distroy the joy of the ppl who dance?
And this habbit has nothing to do with Trance music , im not using this and its only for ppl who just wnanna be in for my opinion.
Ok so your high for few seconds...WOW
All im saying is because i want to preseve the pure vibe of TRANCE and its about time for ppl to AWAKE dont you think so???
Peace
Shanti Alien
Vectro Electro

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Posted : Nov 15, 2003 12:21
You don't even enjoy music for real when u r on baloons, they make you loose the rythm and ppl always fight because of this shit... not to mention the ppl who drop off their feet.
Who brought it to our parties anyway? I didn't see much baloons at parties 2 years ago. Now it's everywhere           http://www.myspace.com/vectroelectro
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