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Shamanik Festival - 11 / 15th of August 2007 - Portugal
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perception
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 18:05
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see u on shamanik 2008  |
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Gordon Shumway
Gordon Shumway
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 19:13
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that's how you easily steal hippie's money lol
and believe serguei, JP wasn't kidnapp, that's bullshit.
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BoomShaka
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 19:52
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The focus is not if he get more r less money. in my opinion is as to be the idea of him during all the production/promotion work. |
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Leppy
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 20:00
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Well... That's what happens when you start to organize a big festival without even make a simple one night party... A step much larger than the legs they have...
I'm very sad that this happened in this country where we have some of the biggest festivals...
I agree with you Gordon when you say that he wasn't kidnapped. I also believe that is bullshit...
Anyway, i don't see why our government has to act like england or spain in matter of parties...
I hope that no action is taken towards the trance parties in Pt in general. We have the best conditions to provide some of the best parties.
If those actions were taken, we would loose our Boom Festival, Freedom Festival and other good festivals from reliable organizers. |
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Tris
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 20:23
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On 2007-08-16 20:00, Leppy wrote:
Well... That's what happens when you start to organize a big festival without even make a simple one night party... A step much larger than the legs they have... |
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He did organize a smaller party in Portugal to raise money for the festival. And ended up loosing 30 000 € (he said...) on this. |
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 20:39
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On 2007-08-16 20:00, Leppy wrote:
If those actions were taken, we would loose our Boom Festival, Freedom Festival and other good festivals from reliable organizers.
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Well...if this happens, at least you'll know who's the one to blame
 My fake plants died, because I did not pretend to water them. |
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Loki1
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 20:48
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YESS .. we people who were there all of us believed in the festival. inspite of hearing rumours... we wan to always look for the positive... and we did and we suffered. BUT DONT LOOSE THE POSTIVIE SPIRIT PEOPLE!!!!
I wish i cud got to freedom atealst 
anyways more importantly.... I have URGENT / IMPORTANT MESSAGE for 4 french people with a van who gave me and my Gf a lift from shamanik to the AVIS campsite...
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I LEFT MY BAG IN YOUR VANN!!!
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If u reading this please send me a message. its really important. its a white an orange bag with a orange keychain saying 'amsterdam' on it.
Decontamination process status report :
>Virus identified.
>Infection stalled.
>Quarantine of infected beings in process.
Warning! System RAM insufficient, require external resources |
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Gordon Shumway
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 03:32
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16 de Agosto de 2007 - 14h32
Confusão com seguranças acaba com festival em Avis
Joana Ferreira da Costa
Continuam a chegar à cidade alentejana de Avis pessoas de vários pontos do mundo para assistirem ao Festival de Shamanik. Mas a festa de cinco dias acabou cancelada no domingo, depois da noite inaugural. A produção não tem dinheiro para pagar aos DJ convidados e a segurança desapareceu.
O festival de música electrónica começou no dia 11 e só deveria terminar hoje, num cenário idílico junto à Barragem do Maranhão. Contudo, a festa trance, onde, no sábado, terão estado cerca de 700 pessoas, não foi além do primeiro dia. Nessa madrugada, os cerca de 60 seguranças vindos de França para a Herdade do Toucinho envolveram-se numa violenta discussão com o promotor francês do espectáculo, conhecido como Jean Paul, acusando-o de não ter dinheiro para lhes pagar.
A confusão instalou-se e acabaram todos por ser ouvidos pela GNR no domingo de manhã, aguardando-se agora que o Tribunal de Avis avalie a existência de indícios de crime e determine a necessidade de mais investigação.
De acordo com uma testemunha que acompanhou a actuação da GNR, o promotor "alegou que o trabalho era pago diariamente com a receita dos espectáculos. Mas, na primeira noite, a receita dos bilhetes desapareceu ou então não era suficiente para pagar a todos os artistas e membros do staff", relatou. "Os seguranças, quando perceberam que não havia dinheiro, perderam a calma e exigiram saber como seriam pagos." O grupo de seguranças terá abandonado a cidade num autocarro nesse mesmo dia.
No fórum de discussão na página oficial do festival na net circulam versões contraditórias e mais ou menos violentas sobre a noite de sábado, que falam até de assaltos e do "rapto" de Jean Paul por membros da segurança. Muito discutidos também são os problemas na organização do festival, cujos bilhetes custavam 100 euros.
A GNR não confirma esta alegada violência, mas admite vários cenários. "É preciso perceber se esta situação não foi previamente concertada entre o promotor e os seguranças", afirma fonte da polícia, dizendo haver informação de anteriores problemas com a mesma organização num festival na Azambuja. Há muita especulação e eventuais inquéritos aos participantes não prometem trazer grande luz sobre o assunto. "São pessoas sob o efeito de álcool e de drogas e temos dificuldade em obter informação credível", remata.
Segundo uma testemunha, os seguranças franceses perderam a calma quando viram que não havia dinheiro.
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Well, this is from a well known newspapper from Portugal. I will just translate these 2 paragraphs which i believe say pretty much all about this.
First quote from the police chief:
"We still need to know if all this mess wasn't previously agreed between Jean Paul and the security guys"
Second quote from the police chief:
"About the inquiries to the participants, we couldnt get much as they're people under the influence of drugs and alchool" 
Oh, they also mention us bitching here lol
Hi MOM!
If someone has the patience to fully translate it...do it
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Gordon Shumway
Gordon Shumway
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 03:51
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Dudes, i've just been thinking about this, i'm 100% sure about this guy.
Notice how the police doesn't state anything about an abduction? Nor the journalist, unless on the part that she talks about the rumours in here about the kidnapp.
This is really bad for us, fortunatly it didnt get the projection of getting exposed on the major and sensasionalist news channels. If it would, I believe the government would imediatly change it's path into the one used by our fellow european countries about this kind of events.
Portuguese people, for your sake, let's boicott these shitty organizations for the next years. That's if you want to be as free as you are now. I also believe you all need to see how raves are handled by the government in other European countries and others. Just go to youtube and search "party shut down" or "police bust".
We usually dont get that here.
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 15:02
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On 2007-08-16 12:31, serguei wrote:
i'm shocked that people take this crap serious!!
For me, it's very clear from the beggining that JP is no victim, and of course he ran away with the money, the stolen stuff AND his security friends!!!
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indeed not the first time this happens, I think its just the first time with a big festival...
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BoomShaka
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 15:17
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JP, I have here your pre-sale money. Its nt to much, but if you wanna it, come to me personally.
Send me a PM.
Burn Babylon and their followers!!! |
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skylab-pt
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 20:40
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well.. guess mister skylab wasn't so much in the sky after all mister aubry..
once again the scene gets damaged..
once again the name of trance get a puch in the eye..
another updown..
well we knew it was going to be like this..
didn t we?
french cunt..
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nomansland
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 21:28
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an action in justice is begening in france
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 21:38
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On 2007-08-17 21:28, nomansland wrote:
an action in justice is begening in france
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Can u explain what's happening , i think this is important.
I'm on vacation right now , going off to freedom , but when i get back i would like to know wht's happening
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raffi
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 22:51
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*****JP is a thief and got what he deserved, his bad karma coming back to bit him in the ass!*** I ordered ALOT of clothing through his webshop( months ago), and he only delivered half and never sent the other half, it took me many many emails to even get an answer. I know this is minor in comparison to the clusterfuck-non festival, but the guy is a crook, thief and liar through and through.
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