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Pushed out from Stargate's Ibogas Tour

Kenji Dub
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 24, 2004 18:27
I would like to show my disappointment with the WOMBs staffs attitude. And also, big disappointment with Stargate organizers for release the party in a club like that...
I get inside the party, and everything was fine except by the weird big troop of security guys... Strange...
Few people was dancing in the openning Dj, than I set fire in a CHANDAN insence... after 30 seconds the first staff came in my direction saying: "this is not allowed here!" taking my incence...
Ok... I can suffer this.
Sal starts to play a great set!
Minutes later, I go to the toilet with my friend to take something, taking care, locking the door, private time...
So, we were surprised with another STAFF spying us by the top of the toilet wood wall. Then He jump inside the toilet, he take my "magic pack", and start a body check looking for something else... So Stupid! So humiliating!
At this moment there were two of them conducting Us to staffs room(and for my surprise I was not the only one over there) , to show our ID, pose to pictures and then be ejected of the party, before the live p.a. and after have payed both 4000 entrance.
Why? Why??
This is the first time in 6 years of parties, this happen to me. And it was So Bad!
Worst moment in a party ever!
I just hope to forget it some day.
Because for me, still a trauma.

This is not apology to drugs, but request for freedom in the parties!

WOMB NEVERMIND!
STARGATE, you should have warned us!

SO SAD
          "...Life must to be a preparation for transition to another dimension..."
Kenji Dub
Katapult

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Posts :  27
Posted : Mar 24, 2004 23:41
Warned you of what? That drugs are illegal? Why are you wasting everyone's time in this forum with your stupidity?           PAR-2 Productions - PAR2, Jikkenteki, Katapult www.par-2.com
Old Skool


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Posted : Mar 25, 2004 03:22
Lucky you weren't taken to the police.
You should know better how certain clubs act. Some even have cameras in toilets to detect people like you. Its their job to do so or they lose their liscence if they close their eys to people like you doing whatever so stupidly. And you're complaining to StarGate that its their fault? Man you're so screwed in the head you even don't know what your talking about. You almost ruined StarGates party with your stupidity. They could got in trouble because of YOU! Go apologize to them. Kids like you screws things up dude.
Kenji Dub
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  170
Posted : Mar 25, 2004 13:28
Drugs are illegal? Really? Please dont say me that.
Ruin the party? Me? Oh come on! Do you wanna know how many people carring drugs I saw in staffs room?

Quote:

On 2004-03-25 03:22, Old Skool wrote:
Lucky you weren't taken to the police.
You should know better how certain clubs act. Some even have cameras in toilets to detect people like you. Its their job to do so or they lose their liscence if they close their eys to people like you doing whatever so stupidly.



You said Lucky? You as a psy trancer should know better how security staffs use to be frendly with drugs in trance parties! You should know better how people are different, and how people use to enjoy parties in different ways, before judge my actions like "stupid".
"Respect" is the word.

You wrote before in another forum that you hate people who ask for respect in the end of the post... So, may you hate me but, if you judge anybody who use something in parties, like stupid people...
Maybe you are in the wrong scene "dude".

I didnt post here to discuss about drugs. I did it to expose my disappointment about lacks of freedom in the party.
"Freedom" is the word.
For me, is a essential element in parties.
And its always present in the parties I ever been to.

Stargate... bring it back please...
          "...Life must to be a preparation for transition to another dimension..."
Kenji Dub
Old Skool


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Posted : Mar 25, 2004 17:31
Dude

I am not in the wrong scene. I practically know all. I know Sal and the organizer of StarGate.
As well the other majority of people.
I was partying hard from 92 from the first underground trance party in Tokyo.
Don't tell me that I don't know.

Yes I called you stupid because your actions
are stupid. Smart people never act like nor speak like you. They play the game smart.
And young kids recently in Tokyo right now gets off their face in public and everybody could see their wacked and they think it is cool.
You guys are screwing things up dude.
If you love what you do, grow up and play the game more slick.
And I tell you something, you say want FREEDOM. You cannot do whatever you like in Japan. Your definition of FREEDOM is
what people call irresonponsible and total disrepsect to the scene making it in a worse place every minute. Think about it.
Kenji Dub
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  18
Posts :  170
Posted : Mar 25, 2004 19:09
Quote:

On 2004-03-25 17:31, Old Skool wrote:
Dude

I am not in the wrong scene. I practically know all. I know Sal and the organizer of StarGate.
As well the other majority of people.
I was partying hard from 92 from the first underground trance party in Tokyo.
Don't tell me that I don't know.

Yes I called you stupid because your actions
are stupid. Smart people never act like nor speak like you. They play the game smart.
And young kids recently in Tokyo right now gets off their face in public and everybody could see their wacked and they think it is cool.
You guys are screwing things up dude.
If you love what you do, grow up and play the game more slick.
And I tell you something, you say want FREEDOM. You cannot do whatever you like in Japan. Your definition of FREEDOM is
what people call irresonponsible and total disrepsect to the scene making it in a worse place every minute. Think about it.



If you read my post correctly, you should have seen that, when I want do something in the party I do it in PRIVATE, like I always did, taking care, not showing to everybody like the "japanese kids" that you know well... Please DO NOT COMPARE ME TO THEM. Because I never play to the game wide open like that, DUDE.

And about the WOMBs staffs...
what they did to me, was privacy invasion, beyond this, they stoled me for own consumption! ABUSE!
Why are you defending this hipocrits???

Im not blaming Stargate about that (I think is better if you read to my posts twice before reply mistaken), I use to love their parties, I only sugesting skip this venue.

Is the 3rd time you trying to judge me and you definitly dont know me.

respect






          "...Life must to be a preparation for transition to another dimension..."
Kenji Dub
Jikkenteki
Jikkenteki

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Posted : Mar 25, 2004 23:51
Quote:


And about the WOMBs staffs...
what they did to me, was privacy invasion, beyond this, they stoled me for own consumption! ABUSE!
Why are you defending this hipocrits???



I'm sorry, but they did not invade your privacy. You were taking illegal drugs on someone else's property. They own the entire building and have every legal right to check in their toilets, especially if they think there is something illegal going on. They should have turned you into the police, so you are luckly all they did was confiscate your drugs. If you are going to do drugs you have to understand that at some point someone is going to catch you and take them away. Also, they are not hypocrites. If they had said "yes you can do drugs all you want" then they would be, but I can guarentee they didn't. In fact I bet somewhere they even said "no drugs, people caught will be removed" because it is commen sense.

Yes several years ago many Japanese parties were lax on drugs, if only because mushrooms were legal then. They aren't anymore, and the authorities are cracking down on people breaking the law in this way. The people putting on these events have to make sure that they follow the laws so they will be able to continue such events in the future.

Sorry, but the days of being able to freely do drugs at parties is basically over, even if you are trying to be "private" about it (personally I won't miss having to walk over 100 kids sitting in the middle of the floor tripping their brains out one bit, but that's just me). If it is so important that you have you drugs, then at have the brains to take them before you enter the club in the first place. Or learn to enjoy the music sober... its pretty good that way too
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Katapult

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Posts :  27
Posted : Mar 25, 2004 23:53
Quote:

If you read my post correctly, you should have seen that, when I want do something in the party I do it in PRIVATE



Private does not mean in the bathroom of a club. Even though most can't see you there, you are still on someone else's property which means they are responsible for the actions going on there, including your stupidity. Your actions could have shut the whole party down so no, that is not PRIVATE.

I can't tell you what the scene was like in Japan in the early 90's, but in the US the reason people didn't care about drugs at parties was because the parties weren't being held in clubs. The whole party itself was illegal so a little drug use was completely overlooked, not to mention that there weren't any bouncers at these parties. Now the parties have moved to mainstream clubs where the owners can be held responsible for anyone's actions which is why they kicked your dumb ass out. If you want to do drugs at a party, take them before you go inside.           PAR-2 Productions - PAR2, Jikkenteki, Katapult www.par-2.com
Old Skool


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Posted : Mar 26, 2004 12:48
Also, don't you write the title of the topic that people could get the wrong image of StarGate. Write "I got kicked out of club"

One more thing I said I hate people writng "RESPECT" at the end of their posts when they are acting and writing totally
"DISRESPECTFUL"

To people that act and write respectfully and
write "RESPECT" in the end, ofcourse I "RESPECT" that.

If you love StarGate party show them some
"RESPECT" with action. Your "RESPECT" is full of shit. Think its a fancy word eh?
goa-ganges
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  594
Posted : Mar 26, 2004 17:51
Kenji, the worst parties I've ever been in my life were in Brazil. That's one of the sickiest scenes in the world, thanks to attitudes like yours. Japanese parties are the best in the world because they struggle hard to keep the scene clean. Trance was and is a state of mind, to smile and relax thru getting your mind and body tired via music, not by drugs - which you should remember are illegal not only in Japan, but in the rest of the world too. Really, you were lucky for not getting arrested. Lucky us too, who got rid of a weird guy like you.
If you had paid enough attention, you would see that most fliers WARN you about drugs, and some parties even PROHIBIT smoking cigarretes and alcohol in the dance floor.
So, instead of getting annoyed with the staff and the crowd you should see that the staff and the crowd had the right (and the wish) of banning you from the party.
If all the weird guys like you were swept away from parties, you wouldn't have Celebra Brasil called off last year - thanks to drugs appologisers like you.

Get a brain, man.

peace and love.
Kenji Dub
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  170
Posted : Mar 26, 2004 19:54
Well guys, I see too much hipocrisy here.

Old skool - I always have respected everyone in this forum. If you call me stupid at the first time even if you disagree with my actions and words... You are the only one being totally disrespectful!!

Goa ganges - I dont know about the trance scene in Brazil because Id never been in trance parties over there. All I know, is that Brazil is one of the Djs favorites dance floors, and thats why many artists use to play there for free or donating all their payment to institutions... All for the best vibe!
Exactly the opposite of Japan, that always hold the greatest parties in the world... Wanna know why? Because is the best place to artists get payed for their job!! If they need money they come to the source! Sad but true man.
And Tell me what makes you so proud of the japanese scene if actually the parties in Japan are overcrowded of disgusting mafia kids sniffing speed in the dance floor (so Im the stupid?) and shibuya gals carring their Louis Vuitton stuff talking on the mobile phone when Dj is playing beside (and Im the weird?)!!

Come on guys, look to your own people before muder about my acts.

Im a trance lover, and I just get scaried with this boring attitude from the staff.
Because that was the first time I saw this dark side of them.

and Goa-Ganges, I dont need to do drugs to enjoy a party, for me, trance is the perfect drug. But wont you conddem me because I use ilegal substances do you?
What you mean scene clean? A scene without drugs?
Dont make me laugh!

Respect and Freedom

          "...Life must to be a preparation for transition to another dimension..."
Kenji Dub
goa-ganges
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Mar 27, 2004 12:31
Sorry to tell you kenji that I'm brazilian like you. And I'm not against or for this or that country or scene. I am against attitudes like yours.
Nice history you have to tell now to your friends: you come from the opposite side of the globe, enjoy some of the best artists of the scene at a reasonable local price, dance among people who still smiles to the music. And out of a sudden just because you were having something illegal in the bathroom with a friend you get, disrespectfully, ejected from the party and - who knows - from all the other important parties in this country. Congratulations, really. You a smart guy.

Now that you are really disappointed, take all the drugs you think you deserve.

LOL to you.

Peace ann Love.
Kenji Dub
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  170
Posted : Mar 29, 2004 18:31
Quote:

On 2004-03-27 12:31, goa-ganges wrote:
Sorry to tell you kenji that I'm brazilian like you. And I'm not against or for this or that country or scene. I am against attitudes like yours.
Nice history you have to tell now to your friends: you come from the opposite side of the globe, enjoy some of the best artists of the scene at a reasonable local price, dance among people who still smiles to the music. And out of a sudden just because you were having something illegal in the bathroom with a friend you get, disrespectfully, ejected from the party and - who knows - from all the other important parties in this country. Congratulations, really. You a smart guy.

Now that you are really disappointed, take all the drugs you think you deserve.

LOL to you.

Peace ann Love.




You dont need to say sorry, I dont care about where you from. I just care about you, and your feeling about Brazil... Its So weird!
And this story is far away to be nice.
I told many friends, and like me, all of them never have seen this kind of attitude from staffs, and all of them agree about loss of freedom in parties.
I didnt know that we had people so systematic like you in this scene, I mean, so antiquated and outdated! You speak like my mom!

About drugs, I cant take it anymore, like you recomend me, because Staffs had a great time tooking all my stuff!

Naive who dont know about that!

          "...Life must to be a preparation for transition to another dimension..."
Kenji Dub
spliffnik
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  663
Posted : Mar 29, 2004 20:05
please chill ppl... I understand both sides how you guys feel, but calling each other names wont do anything and it is not constructive. I know how you fell strongly about things and you lash out about this or that (I have done it myself too many times). I just want to tell you that it is much more effective communication when you dont call ppl names and make fun of each other.....
Kenji, I feel for you it must have been very hard for you but yes this is the indoor scene, I find very little freeedom at these events too. Just wait for the summer brother, and you will be very free, the way you want it to be.

-bOOm-
spliffnik
Kenji Dub
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  170
Posted : Mar 30, 2004 13:03
I agree with you spliffnik. You are completely right about do not bitch...
I just lost my mind when some people start to attack me only because I expose my feelings about something that I didnt apreciatte in a party.
And I apologize about that.
But I didnt said any lie. Did I?
This people started with offensive posts...
So bad!

Yes true parties are coming! I Cant wait...

Cheers


          "...Life must to be a preparation for transition to another dimension..."
Kenji Dub
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