Psytrance evolution is finish

On 2006-08-16 10:45, simon_marklar wrote:

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On 2006-08-15 19:35, Pavel wrote: Come back to what? To Full-on? To Dark Psy?? Behhh. np: Secede - Leraine

no, come back and intergrate the new sounds/ideas/styles into psychedelic dance music, bringing the "psychedelic" genre one step forward again.

what i liked about the old stuff was how the artists seemed to come from different music scenes, blending it into a dancable 4/4 track (johan bley, tim shudlt, joti, dado etc all came from different musical backgrounds AFAIK) and that made the music diverse, and interesting. I think that most of the producers thesedays grew up with psy trance, thats why psytrance sounds so inbred thesedays... no outside influences.

On 2006-08-16 11:36, Pavel wrote:

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On 2006-08-16 10:45, simon_marklar wrote: Quote: On 2006-08-15 19:35, Pavel wrote: Come back to what? To Full-on? To Dark Psy?? Behhh. np: Secede - Leraine Labels choose from the current pool of music... it is like a sardine biting its tail. no, come back and intergrate the new sounds/ideas/styles into psychedelic dance music, bringing the "psychedelic" genre one step forward again. what i liked about the old stuff was how the artists seemed to come from different music scenes, blending it into a dancable 4/4 track (johan bley, tim shudlt, joti, dado etc all came from different musical backgrounds AFAIK) and that made the music diverse, and interesting. I think that most of the producers thesedays grew up with psy trance, thats why psytrance sounds so inbred thesedays... no outside influences.

You are right. But 95% of the labels ask for music that fits their mold.

On 2006-08-16 11:58, Acidhive wrote:
I've said this in another topic as well, but it might not hurt telling you here too. If you get tired of psytrance, then do what I do... Listen to other electronic music. Some of the best stuff is out there for free on netlabels. Stuff from Aidan Baker, Off The Sky, Marsen Jules, Sleepy Town Manufacture etc. etc.

Also I listen to all kinds of metal. Death, black, doom, you name it. So, every once in a while I get tired of psytrance a little (mostly full-on and dark though, I almost never get tired of progressive) and then I have a metal/ambient/electronics period and I return to psytrance after a while and it all sounds fresher again.

Just take a break for a while and then get back to it. Works for me, so why not for you? And for gods' sake people. Explore!! There's lots of great music besides psytrance. Just scout around and see what you like for yourselves. Here's a few links for good electronic music to start:

http://www.thinnerism.com
http://www.sutemos.net
http://www.darkduck.net/store_ddp.html
http://archive.org

On archive.org, search for:

Introspective (great ambient, a la Aes Dana)
Bolander (great dark drone ambient, check out anything from the TZP Drone Company, they have some great releases... Sundummy for example)
Sleepy Town Manufacture (particulary the Miss EP and the Latatoo EP, but the double album For You And For Me is also good)
Marsen Jules (great ambient, different vibe)
Krill Minima (the same guy as Marsen Jules)

The list goes on and on... and that's all for free. Try it. You might even like it. Makes a welcome change from psytrance and when you get back to psy after listening to other music, then psy sounds all the better for it.

On 2006-08-16 11:36, Pavel wrote:
You are right. But 95% of the labels ask for music that fits their mold.

On 2006-08-16 21:44, offthenutboom wrote:

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On 2006-08-16 11:58, Acidhive wrote: I've said this in another topic as well, but it might not hurt telling you here too. If you get tired of psytrance, then do what I do... Listen to other electronic music. Some of the best stuff is out there for free on netlabels. Stuff from Aidan Baker, Off The Sky, Marsen Jules, Sleepy Town Manufacture etc. etc. Also I listen to all kinds of metal. Death, black, doom, you name it. So, every once in a while I get tired of psytrance a little (mostly full-on and dark though, I almost never get tired of progressive) and then I have a metal/ambient/electronics period and I return to psytrance after a while and it all sounds fresher again. Just take a break for a while and then get back to it. Works for me, so why not for you? And for gods' sake people. Explore!! There's lots of great music besides psytrance. Just scout around and see what you like for yourselves. Here's a few links for good electronic music to start: http://www.thinnerism.com http://www.sutemos.net http://www.darkduck.net/store_ddp.html http://archive.org On archive.org, search for: Introspective (great ambient, a la Aes Dana) Bolander (great dark drone ambient, check out anything from the TZP Drone Company, they have some great releases... Sundummy for example) Sleepy Town Manufacture (particulary the Miss EP and the Latatoo EP, but the double album For You And For Me is also good) Marsen Jules (great ambient, different vibe) Krill Minima (the same guy as Marsen Jules) The list goes on and on... and that's all for free. Try it. You might even like it. Makes a welcome change from psytrance and when you get back to psy after listening to other music, then psy sounds all the better for it.

I have been listening to tons of techno, electro house and minimal tech... and I have found many specific tracks that remind me of the beginning of hard trance. Also I try to go to punk concerts, jam bands, latin funk... I am always open to influences. Actually I like the new tendency to mix all kinds of genres into one set. As if segregation of music has dissapeared and dance music is redefining itself. Now I have not seen this change in psy because as a movement we are fairly closed to outside influences... we are basically self contained.

On 2006-08-17 11:33, NeuroGlitch wrote:
I reckon the problems start before an artist starts releasing. So many up and coming producers think they are going to change the scene by introducing their special formula. But when no-one releases their tunes or sign them up, they resort to making music sounding like other peoples music. Generic trance - should be a new genre

Then suddenly they're recognized and start releasing. It's a bad cycle, but guys that make it with a different sound and continue doing that ... respect. Artifact - perfect example

On 2006-08-17 14:30, X_RUST wrote:
also when an artist is releasing his first tracks ,propably these traxx have been worked and processed for long time,even years!and after starts releasing his traxx obviously the next traxx wont be so long time worked .i think!

On 2006-08-17 14:30, X_RUST wrote:
also when an artist is releasing his first tracks ,propably these traxx have been worked and processed for long time,even years!and after starts releasing his traxx obviously the next traxx wont be so long time worked .i think!