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Psychedelic Christianity

cascade

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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 13:25
Hello everyone!

Can you pelase reply to this topic?

i'm a bit confused here.

i don't get some things.

WHY does everyone who claims to want love, happiness and spirit is more or less against Christianity and the Bible?

If we live in the APOCALYPSE days, why does everyone is against religion?

Why does Psychedelic culture differentiates itself form Christianity?

I FEEL these things are the same, don't you?

Why does psy today moves into the darkness to find the light and doesn't walk in the light?

spirit of the mushroom
NextWorld
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 13:53
The idea behind christianity might be a good one.

The execution in the past 2000 years though, was autocratic, dictatorial and selfish. Nothing i want to be associated with.

Even if the christian church would turn 180°, there would be no reason for me to join them.
I´ve found all the moralities teached by the church by myself, or with help by my friends. I don´t see any logical reason why i should sell my soul to a hypothetical entity, which either gives you the chance to live your life his way or to burn in hell.
psy-rat


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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 13:59
Who did this? Who are you?            ".. You claim that this thing .. did not affect the larger part of your brain!! Then, how come everyone else describe you as an Extra fu.. terrestrial !!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaannnng..."

http://www.myspace.com/jvelbet
psy-rat


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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 14:17
No hard feelings then. Got ya.            ".. You claim that this thing .. did not affect the larger part of your brain!! Then, how come everyone else describe you as an Extra fu.. terrestrial !!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaannnng..."

http://www.myspace.com/jvelbet
Adigroovy
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 14:25
Quote:

On 2007-10-01 13:25, cascade wrote:
Hello everyone!



WHY does everyone who claims to want love, happiness and spirit is more or less against Christianity and the Bible?

If we live in the APOCALYPSE days, why does everyone is against religion?



spirit of the mushroom


Because the religions are opium of the masses . There is nothing truth in it's only about power and it's created by humans to control humans. free your self without them           to use your head you have to go out of your mind
psy-rat


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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 14:27
"Spirit of the mushroom", hey? Where did you people get that, from some Tolkien's novel ?            ".. You claim that this thing .. did not affect the larger part of your brain!! Then, how come everyone else describe you as an Extra fu.. terrestrial !!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaannnng..."

http://www.myspace.com/jvelbet
shamanizer


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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 14:39
Quote:

On 2007-10-01 13:53, NextWorld wrote:
The idea behind christianity might be a good one.

The execution in the past 2000 years though, was autocratic, dictatorial and selfish. Nothing i want to be associated with.

Even if the christian church would turn 180°, there would be no reason for me to join them.
I´ve found all the moralities teached by the church by myself, or with help by my friends. I don´t see any logical reason why i should sell my soul to a hypothetical entity, which either gives you the chance to live your life his way or to burn in hell.



Second that.
psy-rat


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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 14:50
The last thing I want is to see the psychedelic culture transforming to a Global movement based on cascades..            ".. You claim that this thing .. did not affect the larger part of your brain!! Then, how come everyone else describe you as an Extra fu.. terrestrial !!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaannnng..."

http://www.myspace.com/jvelbet
panorama
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 14:56
I have never seen a dj or party promoter or even artist try to tell people how they should or should not act, what they should or should not believe or tell them they were going to be damned if the didnt like full-on (or prog or dark or what ever)

Also. I live in a country (philippines) where EVERYONE uses the catholic faith to as an excuse to do ANYTHING. They cheat on their partners, lie, steal, what ever- cause come sunday they can ask forgiveness- confession and absolution

Personally, I think that equating the 2 (psy and religion), is like equating an airplane and, say... chocolate ....or something equally as rediculous

Truth is truth, and people need to face that. Life on earth is where we should be focusing our energy, not some mystical, etheral and far oiff dream of a spiritual afterlife.

If everyone KNEW for certain this was the only life- then we would all treat each other and our planet better.

sorry for being preachy- its just that organixed religion causes predjudice, wars and it totally gives me the shits           Trance is the answer

http://www.pan.dj
Chemistry and Panovision Events
psy-rat


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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 15:13
1209-1244. Pope Innocent III calls a brutal and bitter internal Crusade (the Albigensian Crusade) against the Cathars in southern France (the Languedoc region; Albi was a Cathar stronghold). The Cathars (Greek for "pure") practiced old Gnostic-Christian beliefs that apparently came by way of Bosnia in the 400-500's. The Cathars were pacifists who had adopted a Gnostic view due to the corruption of the local Catholic clergy; their belief that everything in the material world was an evil manifestation of the mind of the devil (the fallen son) implied that Jesus, in the material world, could not have been really good or a god. This was the first significant heresy within established Catholicism; the Dominican order was formed to preach against the Cathars and the Inquisition was formed. "Kill them all; God will know his own." (hey, where have we heard that?) [1] . Supposedly the last Cathar was burned in 1244, but apparently some today practice Catharism. (??) Say, let's have some "mushroom spirit" to know his own !!!            ".. You claim that this thing .. did not affect the larger part of your brain!! Then, how come everyone else describe you as an Extra fu.. terrestrial !!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaannnng..."

http://www.myspace.com/jvelbet
DETOX
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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 15:44
Psychedelic culture is different from Christianity because the first is based on music and the second on God.

Music is just there for people to have fun and dance to it while religion (for those who believe in any religion) is something more spiritual and personal and more complicated.

Noone is going to get enlightened by listening to Hallucinogen and Tristan and noone will fall into total darkness by listening to Xenomorph and Parasense.Music,thankfully,is not so complicated.

As about people being against religions well to be honest i think that much more people are into religion than those who dont care about it,actually atheists or agnostics (like my self being a religious agnostic) are just a tiny minority into this world as far as i know.

And since you mentioned love,hapiness and spirituality well one doesnt have to be a Christian to believe in all these things,Buddhism also represents the same things and to be honest i dont remember any Buddhists to begin any Crusades or to destroy any ancient civilization like the Christians did with the Ancient Greece or to get any money by any government like the greek orthodox church is doing in our country.

So why being a Christian instead of a Buddhist?

I will quote the one and only Peter Ustinov to end this very interesting but rather unrelated with music discussion.

"I believe that the Jews have made a contribution to the human condition out of all proportion to their numbers.I believe them to be an immense people.Not only have they supplied the world with two leaders of the stature of Jesus Christ and Karl Marx,but they have even indulged in the luxury of following neither one nor the other"

And Karl Marx for those who dont know him well is the one that claimed that Religion is the opium of the people           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Hunter S.T.

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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 17:59
There is a story, which is fairly well known, about when the missionaries came to Africa. They had the Bible and we, the natives, had the land. They said "Let us pray," and we dutifully shut our eyes. When we opened them, why, they now had the land and we had the Bible. ~Desmond M. Tutu, "Religious Human Rights and the Bible"
But what is this for question actually, it's like to ask about link between KKK clan and Dalai Lama. I mean psychedelic culture is exactly about see, hear, feel what the world is or the view on it just like it is and without any previuos judgments or ideas given you like "they" want you see it.
The religions with the belive in one god are the cause of so much violence in last 2000 years. think about the first cruzades, the second, when they discover "new world" and in the name of god, destrying entire civilisations, cultures, and taking all their richness to make Vatican stronger and then few that left made them the guilty for all. and wtf, today they are saying don't use condoms, and millions are beeing infect by sida every day, I could continue but I hope you see the point ...
Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 18:15
there is a strong difference between religion and belief (god). religions are different interpretations of one and the same belief (as detox wrote). i believe, and i believe that god is everywhere. he's the soil and the sky, the air and the water, and that pumping bassline coming out of the speakers. to say it with BLT's words, god is love.

if good music touches me in my innermost and gives me goosegumps, it's actually god tickling my neck.

i guess that spiritual ppl being against religious organisations is like clothes designer ppl being against the big clothes fabricants...like naturally.


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bert


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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 18:24
Isnt JIRAH a hardcore christian?
Remember reading here on isratrance that he refused to play in a party unless they took down all the heathen backdrops shoving Shiva.

J
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 18:36
Quote:

On 2007-10-01 18:15, Anak wrote:
there is a strong difference between religion and belief (god). religions are different interpretations of one and the same belief (as detox wrote). i believe, and i believe that god is everywhere. he's the soil and the sky, the air and the water, and that pumping bassline coming out of the speakers. to say it with BLT's words, god is love.

i guess that spiritual ppl being against religious organisations is like clothes designer ppl being against the big clothes fabricants...like naturally.




Well said.
Exactly how I feel.

Quote:

if good music touches me in my innermost and gives me goosegumps, it's actually god tickling my neck.



Fantastic thought.
Considering that music is created by someone's inteligence, criativity, even love sometimes, you can say we are hearing God somehow.

Regards!
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