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PSY Trance and SAE Institute?
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dE.Tonatik
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Posted : Feb 19, 2006 07:49
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sae means sound & audio engineering
that pretty much sums up a lil bit of confusion...u can learn so much more at this institute ...designing sound to being a music producer .... from being a live sound specialist to a good mastering engineer ..it all depends on the way ppl might want to go...
the knowledge is provided .....and so is the exposure .
needs a proper effort
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Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 19, 2006 13:41
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On 2006-02-19 07:49, psychedelia wrote:
sae means sound & audio engineering
that pretty much sums up a lil bit of confusion...
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Errr...no it means School of Audio Engineering.
Now it was many years ago I did the course but then there was no sound design or synthesis covered whatsoever.
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Lepton
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Posted : Feb 20, 2006 10:12
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they have this new course :
electronic music prOducer : 6 months € 2000
they teach : cubase, reason, ableton, protools,.....
I'm strongly thinking of attending this course since I know nothing about all this programs ..... |
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 16:47
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On 2006-02-18 13:42, Ott^ wrote:
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On 2006-02-16 23:19, Fingax wrote:
there are currently ex students engineering stuff like mel B and other very well known in the pop scene where the money rolls.
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I've no doubt. I didn't say that every engineer that went through SAE was an idiot [although all the ones i met were]. I'm sure there have been some talented people that have studied at SAE, but I suspect that they were probably quite talented before they went there.
SAE doesn't make you a bad engineer.
SAE doesn't make you a good engineer.
SAE makes some bad engineers think they are good because they have a piece of paper with "Diploma" written on it.
A piece of paper with "Diploma" will not get you work as a sound engineer. What gets you work as a sound engineer is a CD of the last recording or mix that you did.
When the guy that Fingax mentions went for the gig with Mel B, you can bet he didn't just turn up to the studio, show his diploma and get hired. I guarantee he was hired because somebody heard and liked the last recording he did.
And that is all that matters. You are only as good as the last recording/mix you did.
Learning how the equipment works is about 10% of being a professional engineer. 40% is inter-personal skills and getting on with people and the the remaining 50% is all about using your imagination.
SAE will teach you how to plug in a compressor and format a disk on a Neve VR. They'll teach you the difference between a dynamic mic and a condenser mic and how a high-pass filter works.
What they won't teach you is the other 90% - and it is this 90% that makes the difference between a professional engineer and a wannabe.
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I´d just wanna say that you should not be talking about things that aparently you don´t know about...
Specially because you´ve contradicted yourself sometimes in this post....
Also, I´m not here to defend SAE...there´s a post about that in the Music Creation section.
But, as an SAE student also let me tell you that they give you much more than those 10% you´re talking about...
And also, you don´t get just the diploma, you get the recordings you made during your course, band recordings that you can book at your will, so you´re contradicting yourself...its not everywhere that you get the chance to recor in a NEVE, SSL or with an ICON in with 3 dif liverooms, actually you can...you can rent a studio to use a ICON and do your recordings paying 300$ per hour to use it...loll!
Off course Im not saying you take the course you're a great Audio Engineer! But that applies to all fields, not only Sound Engineering, you take a medicine course also doesn´t mean you´re a great doctor, even if you go to the best place.
But to say things like SAE diplomas go straight to the bin in studios I think not trough at all. Apparently you haven´t been meeting the right graduates 
Don´t take me wrong I do respect your opinion but I just think your critics are bit exagerated so I wanted to express my view.
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