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DJ Buju
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Posted : Dec 23, 2005 11:55
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On 2005-12-23 02:07, nolightatend wrote:
Hello Nolightatend 
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it seems to me everything "negative" been said about psy progressive earns your attention, while you being negative about those ppl.
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When things are being sad about progressive music (Which I very much like) I do read most of them and when found right, I might post my input on the subject.
Is that OK with you kind sir ? 
I also try to always mention that what I'm saying is IMO or IMHO so that users can understand that i'm mearly sharing the way I see things. If you read my reply to glookin properly you'll find that my problem with his post was that he is posting "so called" facts when actualy it depends oon opinions and personal taste. also I found/find the subject of "you must have drugs" or "this isn't psychedelic" as a childish and silly input on ANYKIND of music debats. not only progressive Now you can understand me after I read your posts when you're saying how house is much more psychedelic then anything else... or don't you ?
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Do you think they need to grow up or you need to learn others views, without to bash them even if they are negative or think different from you. This is his own point of view
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Again, I fully respect others opinions on any subject, I don't think glookin's way of expressing himself was the right one. you have the style of answerback and thats why you relate.
If my reply looked as a bash here is my formal appology to mr glookin I still think it was just a mild answer to an emature reply and thats how it should have been taken. but glookin as not even spoken yet and you seems to be doing a good job having your tounge up his... 
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who the fuck are you to teach him act else?
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I am GOD!
*snorts another line of cocaine* 
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Or is it a dual standarts when i review something you need to turn your nose over there with your personal remarks but when there is another topic you seem to teach ppl in here too.
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I think this does not relay this topic, If you read what i wrote it reflects the way i responded to his post which expressed and opinion but shown as a fact. now who thinks he's who when giving an opinion as a fact ? BTW imo teaching is good. I'ts not what I'm doing but would always love to learn.
Could you teach me Music one of these days Willy/Nolightatend ? Oh I forgot you're a listener now not a musician... shame.
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The main reason i don't PM you with this is because you even can't clean your inbox so i can finally reach you by PM as i wanted to long time ago.
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Just to let you know Kind Sir, For the past 3 weeks I'v had %77 in my inbox meaning that you could have reached me in any time ( Like others did & do ) but I guess you want to show some sort of pattern to my behaviour then whatevever...
I agree this as gone totaly out of the direction of the thread... I'm done
Sorry for all the  but that the way a proggy queen acts...hehe
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element
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Posted : Dec 26, 2005 10:42
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Alex
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Posted : Dec 26, 2005 18:59
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I totally agree with Oran. In my opinion, the most part of the progressive released out there these days is house, with no psychedelia or goa feelings at all. I've been giving various tries listening to all your progressive recomendations, like Sub6 - 7th son, the ticon remix, ticon tacks on compilations, antix album, the famous beckers - switch... yotopia, and more artists that progressive people have mentioned and I don't feel anything special, just a clubby sensation I'm not identified with, just a repetitive and boring kick, a voice sample, and not psychedelic sounds, no various psy-layers that turn me mad, that brings me to other places and makes me imagine weird and nice things...
So for me, there's almost/no difference between current house played at clubs and that psygressive thing.
Is it in fashion? well, maybe. I see everytime more and more people talking about this 'psytrance genre'?
I only have to add one thing: if people make their own underground parties, if people who hear this housy music (for me) feels that it is psychedelic and they have fun dancing to it, I don't see any problem, but I prefer to stay away from all this (and mentioning again that I have tried dozens of times understanding what type of psychedelia can people hear in this, but sorry, I can't).
So I prefer to listen to chill out music while staying at home, or old Goa, that is really psychedelic for me. And for partying I like to hear something a bit more fast, and it doesn't mean that it is full on or dark crap, as many disrespectful people say. I assure you that you can dig and find some really nice psychedelic music out there. So when you people refers to full on/morning or dark please don't generalize it saying that the entire genre is a shit. I know there are many bad releases, but I prefer to dig and find good ones that to listen to that house thing 1000 times.
That's just my opinion and just wanted to express it respectfully. |
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ganjagil
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Posted : Dec 26, 2005 21:26
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At our last party we played progressive in the begining you know to test it because we could not find any fullon that we liked so we decided to make a proggy set. We took (some fine plant) before the set as usual and played for 3 hours, in my opinion this proggy stuff has a good groove but as for it being psychedelic it's well far away right now. I was much more connected to some chillout stuff we played in the begining of the party, felt so much more psychedelic man! I like to always test the music and to me Proggy is not so psychedelic at all!
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rich
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Posted : Dec 26, 2005 22:02
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I always thought/felt that progressive was the 'tracnce' part of psytrance. People these days seem to think it must be psychedelic to be psytrance but they're completely neglecting the trance aspect of the music... which is what progessive is (or should be).
I wonder if any of you even know what the trance state is, and I'm not talking about psychedelic. Maybe you get bored like a restless child, I don't know.
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Nobita
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Posted : Dec 26, 2005 22:34
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Nobody has ever said that prog isn't trancy rich.
Actually I think alot of people are saying that they find prog house to be real psychedelic when actually they mean that they find it very trancy, ie. it sends them into a trance state. But there's a difference between being en-tranced and being mind warped, psy-trance is usually somewhere in between those two states. If you take the trance part out of psy, you'd get music made up of lot's of bizarre, ethereal sounds and weird structures (this exists by the way). Row row row your boats gently down the stream; merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream. |
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Dec 26, 2005 23:56
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On 2005-12-26 22:34, Demezriel wrote:
Actually I think alot of people are saying that they find prog house to be real psychedelic when actually they mean that they find it very trancy, ie. it sends them into a trance state.
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nope, thats not what I mean
I find good progressive house like chable, or good progressive trance like antix, absolut or even good electro-house like martinez and trentemoller to be much more trancey AND psychedelic than full on, goa, dark and whatever else people here normally listen to..
By trancey, yes it brings you into a state of mind.. by psychedelic, I mean the sounds and melodies that ´warp´ my mind, as you say, sounds that are totally in-tune with my psychedelic experiences, etc...
So its about taste/interaction of music frequencies with personal frequencies, and thats it, case closed |
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Nobita
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Posted : Dec 27, 2005 00:44
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Hmm ok, it seems psychedelia is a much more subjective notion than I had thought, you learn everyday. Cheers
Row row row your boats gently down the stream; merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream. |
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Yuli
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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 16:56
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@ Nolightatend
Before u start bashing hard working artists that actually give ALTERNATIVE to all the copy paste shit around, at least learn some facts.
DRUMS HAVE NOTES.
Every drumming element from hand percussion tools such as Congas and Bongos to Snare drums and Hi Hats can be tuned and should be tuned.
Tim take it easy - u do just fine ( and surely u dont need my good word to know that but it's never bad to get a good word )
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Triton
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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 23:01
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i think this is the perfect time to start generating true stories on parties lineups...
with proggy getting wider audience now on u can mix em with fullon artists and have a better flow of parties dont u think?? take the audience tru a journey of diverse beats and moods, not only listening moning la la la trance for 12hr straight (who hasnt in a party like that lately???)
just the way it is suppossed to be
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Dec 29, 2005 00:23
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thats exactly it, triton |
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conscious benji
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Posted : Dec 29, 2005 02:48
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On 2005-12-28 23:01, Triton wrote:
i think this is the perfect time to start generating true stories on parties lineups...
with proggy getting wider audience now on u can mix em with fullon artists and have a better flow of parties dont u think?? take the audience tru a journey of diverse beats and moods, not only listening moning la la la trance for 12hr straight (who hasnt in a party like that lately???)
just the way it is suppossed to be
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I agree a 100%! 
Thats the way to do it!!!
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