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Prejudice against Psychadelics

___kaz
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Posted : Nov 2, 2001 21:46:27
because the people who I'm talking to are not the people already convinced at the point I was trying to make... sounds more convincing to a person who isn't pro-psychedelics (well, I'm not pro-legal psychedelics, just pro-psychedelics), basically.
___gRaViTy_WaVeD
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Posted : Nov 3, 2001 02:39:22
hey! who's insulting coffee?! i LIVE for caffaine and proud of it! anyway,i found the absolute perfect way to abuse coffee.... you make it with 6 tea spoons of coffee, one tea spoon of sugar, and with a bit of milk...yes this is how i drink it, no  im not insane(much)... course, i drink like, 2 liter of water everyday, never drink exess amounts of caffaine without knowing that your body has enough water to get it outa your system....i believe i pee 4-9 times a day :P...dont do it unless you like water :)

but the rush is worth it... i so much like that sour coffee taste in my mouth...

at any rate, i believe they will ban caffaine in the next 25 years... i mean, i found a way to abuse it, others might take actions as well some day ^_^
see,its funny, psychedelics, they developed lsd to help alcoholists,opium was acully legal until the late 50s... it goes on and on,i say, even though i dont use them(hell, i never even smokes a ciggie), you cant defend ppl from what they want, if the entire population wants to use, say, lsd, there's not much things you can do about it, it'll still slip in
so take coffee... for now, its legal, why? because its taken in small doses, but sooner or later, ppl will start abusing it like moi...

as for sugar,bah, sugar just get you fat,its not natrual, i cant stand the taste of sugar nowdays(has anyone ever tried to not just sip say, fanta, but to acully FEEL the taste? fuck fanta, has anyone here ever tried to realy feel the taste of the juices they sell today? they add sugar and... i can feel the sugar so much...) i dont like the rush it gives me... caffaine is the true rusher :) at first its sour but then, its own special sweetness come along :)

i would just like to say, thank you god, for making the bean we call coffee bean, you're the greatest...

p.s
alcohol:a mistake waiting to happand, or the love catalyst? you be the judge... myself, it doesnt work much on me, no idea why...

n.p hux flux:experimenting with potions
___pacman7331
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Posted : Nov 3, 2001 07:20:18
Wow a rush from coffee, I gotta try that (except i hate coffee). But Dude, do you go to sleep when the sun rolls down or are you still wired? i'm sure i'll never evernevernevere ev ever neverev er ev vernev ... I won't obtain REM sleep!

Hip na na na neeeee!

BTW, I just want to say, I would really fucking like to try some kind of hallucinogen, but i think my mind is too suseptaible... shit i got paranoid the only time i got stoned...

ha that reminds me, of the time i went in to the hospital and they gave me some kind of 'Feel good' drug that puts you at ease. I'm sure that was some kind of euphoric... in a hospital.

What if the governments of the world Federalized production and distribution? And educated the masses of the effects, and how to act responsible? They could give you what you want, and then kinda keep an eye on you, give you a call back in the morning... or whatever.

just a thought..

np: Jaia : After the rain
___kaz
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Posted : Nov 3, 2001 14:41:25
Well, that would mean people would have to do things for other people who take a nice psychedelic drug, and that's not something society will endorse anytime soon.

Helping Heroin addicts on the other hand, is different - because then those people might save lives, and that's been put into effect in places like the Netherlands, New South Wales in Australia, and a few other places around the world.

Maybe that's the beginning of a more enlightened society to all it's members and more understanding of the drug issues that are very real and are being ignored by the vast majority of the world.

As to getting a rush from caffeine is something I won't try (it's a less healthy alternative to snorting a bit of speed, when you think of it), but there are many other things that can get you high and are perfectly legal in most of the world (US, UK and Israel included), like DXM (in cough syrups, but also in a pure powder form, it's a dissasociative with psychedelic touches which become more distinct with higher doses), DPT (powerful psychedelic designer drug), 2c-t-7 (same, only closer to acid and can cause deaths due to overdoses), Salvia Divinorum (yes, it's legal in basically all of the world, and yes, it's VERY FUCKING POWERFUL, 100% natural, and with the extracts from it can get as powerful as DMT, which isn't illegal everywhere in the world), motion sickness pills at high dosages are also psychedelic, and the list just goes on, and on, and on.

So if you wanna get high legally you can.

BUT, usually, the illegal way has a nicer effect and takes a much smaller toll on the body than the legal version of it.

You can order legal highs from the internet (DXM in powder form for instance), or you can check out www.erowid.com for information about those drugs.

Nice flight to you all :)
___gRaViTy_WaVeD
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Posted : Nov 3, 2001 15:40:09
jupiter: if i fall asleep? oh yes definitly... see, i dont drink it in say, 12 in the morning.... sometimes in the noon, sometimes in the morning etc... anyway, when the caffaine stops effecting, you finaly start feeling how tired you are, then its the sweet embrace of sleep for me....

yeah same here, i wana try something like that, but am rather afraid of the bad effects of the drug... so i dont :)
yeah! i had that same thought! what if drugs were legal, but closely monitored by the goverment? twould be interesting

asaf:realy? so technicly, im using speed on a regular basis? realy? i'll try to uh, lower the dose then :)
yeah but what about the bad effects of the illegal ones? mine might cause hityabshut... but nothing serious....
___kaz
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Posted : Nov 4, 2001 00:15:43
check out www.erowid.com under caffeine and speed.

compare, and remember that a speed high equivalent to the same caffeine one achieved by coffee is an EXTREMELY small dose.
___Sick_Boy
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Posted : Nov 4, 2001 10:54:31
Asaf, correction, http://www.erowid.org
___Sick_Boy
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Posted : Nov 4, 2001 10:56:07
btw, I'm so delighted my post has gotten so much response from everyone...
___Ohm_Nam_Shivaya
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Posted : Nov 4, 2001 20:16:09
There is just one thing here to say about the law:
If someone is isolated from society, it means that he is bad, but if he is being isolated from "society", who are everywhere else, it means that the society is good, right? And that's the purpose of jails, etc... - To isolate the good from the bad. And in our case the society is the "good". And the prisoner is the "bad". Now, if you actually think about it, is it possible to say that society is good? -i don't think so.

This is originally said by albert einstein.

BOM!!!
___Psychadelic_Neo
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Posted : Nov 4, 2001 23:26:50


  People on LSD aren't stupid enough to drive


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Asaf...i have seen people in Goa who has bin driving ther Enfield bullet high on acid...
and thinking they could stear whit thier hands in the air...and when a turn come they have just bin sailing out in the jungle...hehe =) quite a bizar sceen...so some times people are stupid enough to drive!! But again...thats in Goa !!

Sorry for my bad english...
___Psychadelic_Neo
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Posted : Nov 4, 2001 23:37:30
For you who don´t know Enfield is a motorcykle...
___pacman7331
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Posted : Nov 5, 2001 07:10:06
I know people who drive home after taking 5 hits. People are dumb enough. NEVER say "people are not dumb enough to...", you will ALWAYS be wrong.
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