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playing tracks at extreme stretched bpms

Surrender
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 19:47
aye matey.           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Brahell


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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 22:20
2 bpm is a good move i think nothing over 5 bpm is something cool, it will probably just wreck ur stuff up, peace.
offthenutboom
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 22:48
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On 2005-09-05 15:47, Ron Lyner wrote:
well its not about taste..
its about speed
and i think it is much too fast..
i think anything beyond 145 makes the track sounds bad.
dont get it personal.. its only what i think

ps. you actualy right about the 136 bpm, it is exactly what i like




This is so weird. Either ppl have become too old, too close minded or their ass drags... 150 bpms were something regular 12 years ago in trance parties. Maybe ppl were more energetic back then. There were tracks up to 160 bpms!!!! WOOOO HOOOOO and ppl dance to those. So stop the bpm police with those mind traps... trance can be fast. It is all a matter of finding the right moment for a track, the dance crowd, the place. I completly disagree with limits and roadmaps on how something should be.
offthenutboom
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 23:01
There are also tracks who sound better extremely pitched up I used to do it with Ree K. That track in Matsuri Rhythm was so slow I had to set it +7.5% and then it was a good reference for the rest of the set. And ppl jumped, bounced and let loose.

Vocals are a different thing. I will be careful not to make samples sound like the chipmunks?!? but DJs are not deaf and know what to do... at least the professional ones. I used to be so anal about mixing only on the +ve, but now the BPM range in between tracks is of a 6% + @ times. I end up mixing always around the 0 +-3%

There is always exception to the rules. Sometimes you end up in the -4% and it takes you 3 tracks to get back to 0... but as long as I see ppl dancing and building energy it is all good. There is no rules really, but if your duty is to DJ and make ppl dance, then in the moment you will do anything to make it happen. And that is the bottom line, I want to see ppl dancing, smiling and enjoying themselves.... even if it takes streeeeeeeeeeeching... Do you wanna dance or do you wanna dance?!?
Drunken Monk


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Posted : Sep 8, 2005 13:15
Amen! offthenutboom said it all!
And ron.. first you say that speed doesnt matter but the music does and then that its about speed and everythin above 145 sounds bad...! For your ears and brain sounds bad for mine (and a lot of others) sounds perfect!           +-+talking with ali3ns around the universe+-+
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Basilisk
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Posted : Sep 8, 2005 15:17
There are good tracks at all BPMs - I'm not sure why that is the subject here.

These days I am not pitching any tracks up or down more than 1.4% since I am mixing harmonically and trying to keep the songs in key... it's a rather restrictive setup, but works for the longer sets I play out - they build much slower and accumulate more power with such an approach.
Lepton
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Posted : Sep 8, 2005 21:36
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On 2005-09-07 18:10, Surrender wrote:
playing any track at a stretched bpm ruins it in many ways - pitch, vocals, and point of the bpm it was created..... are all trashed.





I moslty don't care about the original feeling off the track. It has to go with the feeling of the set. If I play a hyperactive set, and a 142bpm normal track becomes a wild one at 149 than I will picht it up since this is the intention at that moment....
I think a dj shouldn't try to hold the original feeling nor energy but he should make it fit in the feeling he wants the crowd to experience. Put some personality in your mixes and be original that's what it's all about.....
mubali
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Posted : Sep 8, 2005 23:04
This raises the age old question when it comes to djing... Is it about the music you are playing or your personal interpretation on it?

I find that you can have both if done tastefully, For instance in a hyperactive set if the track is at a low bpm and low on energy, I will usually select something that is a little more appropriate for that time or the story that is trying to be told. Otherwise, if I can do so I might use the track at the lower bpm earlier or not use that at all... Sure you can force something to fit when it doesn't really fit, but whose benefit is it for? Track selection is key when it comes to being a good dj, knowing what to play when inside your personal style really provides the best of both worlds...           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Myrkabah


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Posted : Sep 12, 2005 06:40
The soft limits I'd been running with on pitching is -2% to +4%.
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