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Triamera

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Posted : Sep 5, 2005 23:09
150 bpm isnt too fast
i like and prefer tunes till 156 too
its just a matter of taste and individual liking or disliking
pitching up or down too much for sure steals the magic in the tune too            Nocturnal Wizardz Recs
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Posted : Sep 6, 2005 08:24
Well
Most of my favourite music is above 145bpms. I don't think it sound ridicolous, its just fast music that makes people dance and be energized like duracell bunnies
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Posted : Sep 6, 2005 12:15
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On 2005-09-05 15:47, Ron Lyner wrote:
ps. you actualy right about the 136 bpm, it is exactly what i like



Bah - 136 is ridiculous. Give me a nice 128bpm any day.


If a DJ is playing every song in their set at +5, then I think it is definitely going to take away from the feeling of the music. However, if you have to occasionally pitch a track 3-5% in the set because the sound fits but the bpm is too slow/fast, then I think it's OK.

Also, I find pitching stuff down to be less harmful to the overall feel of a track than pitching it up. When you make it faster, it really takes away the intended space in the track - makes it just a speedy blur. But pitching it down often makes the low-end groove more prominent and creates a more heady space amongst the sound.
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Posted : Sep 6, 2005 12:23
128 can be nice too

i agree that pitching down is less harmful than pitching up..
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Posted : Sep 6, 2005 14:53
am i the only one that hasnt really noticed this type of thing at a party? i must be focusing on other stuff. usually, im the biggest critic of sound quality, but this hasnt been an issue for me.

on the same subject (not really...), i have been experimenting by cutting the bpm in half. it gives a great horrible sounding effect. not good for psytrance, but i encourage you guys to try it for breakdowns and such.


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On 2005-09-06 12:23, Ron Lyner wrote:
128 can be nice too


128? too slow.
128.3! just right.
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Posted : Sep 6, 2005 17:12
While I havnt tried it much with Psytrance, but there are a number of techno tracks that I actually like more when I pitch them down quite a bit.

Bugs me when I'm listening to them on my MP3 player and cant pitch them down like I can on my turntable, as its how I prefer to listen to them


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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 12:48
Ron.. its just a matter of taste man.. You like 128 and 136 and think 150 is ridiculus.. while others (including me) find the 128 boring.. incredible boring (for psy ... for chill out is good ).
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 15:47
you mean the speed bores you ???
try to listen to the music and not to the speed of it.
boring music can be at any speed, slow or fast it doesnt change the fact that its boring..
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 16:18
as i told you before for psy.. yes i find that tempo boring...           +-+talking with ali3ns around the universe+-+
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 16:27
shpongle's - dmt's trance mix and younger brother's - even dwarves... are around 130-133 or so.... i dont quite remember the exact # - but they sure arent boring and they sure are psy.
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 16:48
ouf! Its a matter of taste!!! <ironic> come on.. its not difficult to understand it..! </ironic>
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 16:52
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On 2005-09-07 15:47, Ron Lyner wrote:
try to listen to the music and not to the speed of it.




Exactly BPM is just a number. I find it a bit odd you think 136 is great, what about 135.5?           ________________________
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 16:57
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On 2005-09-07 16:27, Surrender wrote:
shpongle's - dmt's trance mix and younger brother's - even dwarves... are around 130-133 or so.... i dont quite remember the exact # - but they sure arent boring and they sure are psy.




Right on. And it's the other way around aswell, a lot of the old goa tracks were over 150 and they are great.

This thread is reminding me of a DJ who were interviewed in the movie "Modulations", which is a documentary about electronic music. He said that his experience told him that 136 BPM (I think it was) was the perfect BPM to get people to dance all night. Then I thought "ok ... what about drum'n'bass?"

This is going far off topic, but my point is just : It's just a matter of taste.
I listen to everything from drone ambient/soundscapes to speed/noisecore which runs at over 300bpm ... so to me BPM is just a number really. If the track sounds good, it is good not matter what your pioneer mixer says           ________________________
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 18:10
yes phobium BUT - playing any track at a stretched bpm ruins it in many ways - pitch, vocals, and point of the bpm it was created..... are all trashed.
that was my point in this whole thing. whether its 150 orig. or 136 orig. doesnt matter .           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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phobium
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Posted : Sep 7, 2005 18:47
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On 2005-09-07 18:10, Surrender wrote:
yes phobium BUT - playing any track at a stretched bpm ruins it in many ways - pitch, vocals, and point of the bpm it was created..... are all trashed.
that was my point in this whole thing. whether its 150 orig. or 136 orig. doesnt matter .




I agree, if you pitch it too much, it's just silly. I was more talking about the "150 bpm is ridiculous". But as I said, it got a bit off topic
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