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Electronic Bungalow
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Posted : Mar 13, 2004 16:42
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Level Djs & Club A (São Paulo / Brazil): Anything Goes
Level Djs, a brazilian booking agency, and Club A, which is a club based in Sao Paulo altogether, have always been known in the brazilian scene for their partnership as well as for their somewhat weird business practices, which usually mirror a gooffy behaviour, but sometimes are a sad display of disrespect towards the artists and the public.
TRIPTYCH had been booked to perform at CLUB A on Saturday, March 05. The organizer promoted such event with widespread publicity, advertsing it over several Internet sites, and in electronic billboards over the main streets of São Paulo, taking full advantage of TRIPTYCH’s name & reputation to attract as much public as possible.
Which effectively happenned, for CLUB A was overcrowded with more than 2.000 ppl attending that evening. Then, at a short notice, , CLUB A & LEVEL DJs (which supposedly should represent the artist’s interests), just a few minutes before its scheduled performance, informed TRIPTYCH that its set/live act was cancelled, and was given no plausible explanations for such a decision. And to make things worse, the organizer refused to pay any amount out of the artist’s fee.
The performance was then postponed to the following Wednesday, March 10. And again, the SAME situation repeated itself: Intense advertising & promotion, and the act/set was again cancelled ON THE SPOT, meaning that the attending public only learned about it inside CLUB A, having been given no prior warning.
Beto RL, a dj and frind of Charles (Triptych) had a conversation over MSN afterwards, which can be seen at
http://200.171.91.211/psyte/comunidade/forum/index.php?s=23f678d7b6cdaf0e03f370fd93cede37&act=ST&f=5&t=211&st=0
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Electronic Bungalow
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Posted : Mar 13, 2004 16:43
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The above should act as a warning to all djs & projects which are planning a trip to Brazil, and in doing such, are to be represented by Level Djs and are to play at CLUB A. Do the right thing, and the right thing is not just to have a written contract, for most of the times it means nothing, as the brazilian law is slow and cumbersome, and many artists come inside Brazil with tourist visas, which prevent them from legally working in any capacity.
Instead of relying ONLY upon contract, DO DEMAND a down payment of at least 50% of the due fee before living your country. And if already in Brazil, apply the same procedure before allowing your name / project name to be advertised over the organizer’s publicity material.
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Setherian
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 00:15
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why do people still go to that shitty fucking club to begin with??
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Beto
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 21:40
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Yes this is true. I talked to Charles over msn and this was really what happened. Its a shame but what can we do? I do my part, but there are a lot of people that dont think like me.
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gimme_weed_baby
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 23:08
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Me (Paulo Jardim) and Dr. Loboto made a private party here in BH last saturday with Triptych Live,
and Charles told us all the story...
Its a shame that ppl like these have this kind of attitude. The worst is that the audience is still going in the parties made by those people....
i agree with Seth, you ppl in SP should stop going to Club A. |
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full_on
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 00:44
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It's a shame.
It seems Level DJs also did this party:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/31173/forum/27
Read the review, it was an example of "what not to do when doing a party".
Around 5:00am the only liquid available to be bought in the party was Vodka... 
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Electronic Bungalow
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 16:23
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Roger
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 19:02
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Well the thing is: Brasil is still a place where people treat artists like anyone else, so they don't have a problem doing this kind of stuff. In my opinion this is simply ridiculous... Charles is very serious guy and so is the rest of the Turbo Trance crew. If every time they come here they encounter this kind of problems maybe next time they will think twice about coming back!!
"People think twice about how you deal with artisits and who are the real artists that deserve respect"!!!
btw: BH crew nice come back on the private party!! Heard some very nice comments!! 
http://www.turbotrance.com
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Lucas Aly
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 19:08
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And it's not the 1st time Bonie & Clyde (Camilo & Fernanda) act.
ALL INTERNATIONAL ARTIST MUST BE WARNED OF THOSE THIEVES THAT KEEP HUNTING THE SCENE!!!
Happened to Broken Toy in Minas, with Quantica Rec. and to Tryptich in Sampa with Club.a & Level Dj's Agency
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On 2004-03-16 00:15, Setherian wrote:
why do people still go to that shitty fucking club to begin with??
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I keep asking myself... but it really makes no difference if we go or not, we're the minor (100 ppl?), the crowd just love it.
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Setherian
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 19:53
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i disagree with u Roger , most organizers in brazil treat international artists much better than ANY other place in the world (maybe not like in Japan though) . Of course the suckers are around but ...
I invite all brazilian artists to play her in europe and tell me if they get the same treatment as people give to foreigners there!
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Sesto Shemtov
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Posted : Mar 19, 2004 02:52
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first of all... for you setherian
the orgenaizers here are not like you say...beacuse i played here in 10 partyz and from them 4 was with a good organization....and if i dident have fernanada with me soo things was badd ....
2. fernanda is my manager and she is not like you say at all!!!! yea for sure sometimes she makes mistakes like evrybody else...!!! and thet mistakes are not serious at all..... and she is doing a realy good job!!!
(and bealive me i know!!!!)
ohh....and bye the way... for you triptych my friend YOU dont need to feel used(about your name) beacuse....
the club A was
a COMPACT PARTY VS LEVEL DJZ PARTY(with some good artists expect you...)
soo probably that was agood reason also that it was more than 2000 peapole.. 
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charles
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Posted : Mar 19, 2004 04:37
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hello my friend Aviram...and all of you reading this topic
1/ Even if it was a Level dj party with a lot of Com.pact artist, i was supposed to play there, i was on the flyer and i was cancelled!
When Turbo Trance makes a party with "guest", we don't cancel them at the last moment!
So i understand than Fernanda is nice with Com.pact artists, but it's not necessary for her to treat others label artists like she did to me. I think labels have to respect each others. If com.pact or/and Fernanda didn't want me to play because i'm not a com.pact artist, they didn't need to ask me for this party.
2/and i think i can feel used about my name because i met some people this night at Club A asking me when i was supposed to play (they didn't know than i was cancelled) because they were also waiting for my Live... i was on the flyer! so it's normal.
But nobody is saying than 2000 people came to see me. They came to see ALL the artists ON THE FLYER!
3/Fernanda and Club A told me after to play on wednesday for a "Triptych" party...
And again they made a flyer with my name, and again they cancelled me....to put another com.pact artist "Apocalypse". And again some people on wednesady waited for my Live!!
So i think some people can say than Fernanda and Club A didn't respect me (and my public) so much...
Anyway Aviram, it was nice to meet you, Itai and Apocalypse and nice to see you play.
hope to see you soon
Cyaaa
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Fernanda Level
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Posted : Mar 19, 2004 05:04
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So, this is the first and the last time I'm gonna say something about this subject, since this is the "biggest event" in brazilian foruns, I think I should say some words about it:
First of all: Level Djs is the main agency for INTERNACIONAL ARTISTS in Brazil, so maybe that's why some of you think that we work together with Club A, but none of you know that Club A is one of the only clubs that pays full fees for all the artists, n' since our work is to sell artists, they are our partners then, as well as ALL the other organizers that are fair and respectfull with the artists.
. About Tryptich: Club A booked Charles aka Triptych with him, personaly, and it was agreed that he would receive the exactly fee that he asked to; some days later, Thiago Naka said that he was the manager of Turbo Trance in Brazil, and from that moment we should negociate everything with him. The negociation was: Triptych would play in Club A on 5th of march (fryday), and we agreed that he couldn´t play in a club in Sao Paulo during this week, but 4 days before the party we knew that he would play in two clubs (wednesday and thursday) in the same week. At this moment , we got in contact with his manager to cancel the gig if he would play on this 2 dates, since it didn't happened, we cancelled his presentation in Club A (not 5 minutes before the party). Maybe some of you don't know, but Club A sent an e-mail to all their mailing list advising the crowd that he wouldn't play. About Com.pact /Level Djs don't respect other labels/artists, I think you're saying the biggest bullshit ever, so I think you should think about what is respecting other people, cause when you played on the other gigs, and forgot to respect the Club that put your name in thousands of flyers and so. And after all Level Djs doesn't work with only Com.Pact, but with other artists and labels around the globe, and we have been always taking really good care of all the artists that come to Brazil to work with us.
. About the party on wedsnesday, you know that between Level and you everything finished on Fryday, so this was between your manager and Club A, and by the way, the line up was: Triptych, Apocalypse and Mauricio, so you weren't replaced for a Com.Pact artist, and for what I know, the party didn't happened because the crowd that went there was not more then 30 people, so you and my artists were canceled as well. (about this, Club A can xplain you better)
. About the party that Full-On posted the link, we were just putting our djs to play on this party, so if there was this problem with only vodka to drink, it was a fault of the club owners, and by the way, at 5:00 am the party was almost finishing, and this problem started at 2:00am and at 3:00am people were already able to drink whatever they wanted to. So in this case Level Djs work was to bring the Djs so they could play at the time they were supposed to, and this happened, so our part of the job was done.
I hope this post can help to solve everybody's doubts, so from now on, people won't speak about what they don't know.
Fernanda@Level Djs Agency
leveldjs@leveldjs.com.br
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charles
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Posted : Mar 19, 2004 14:50
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No Fernanda you can't hide yourself behind this kind of poor justifications.
1/ This kind of exclusivity you're talking about didn't exist!
Can you show me a proof of that???
Is there any exclusivity contract??
NO!
2/ But the proof is I M ON A FLYER, this FLYER exist!
So even if you had some communication problems to explain than you wanted exclusivity (and if you asked that for sure i would not play for this cheap fee i made for you) it's not a good idea to cancel artists like that!
Why to do that???
because as answer to that now:
-people complain about you because you didn't respect the line up on the flyer (some people asked on forums the day after the party why i didn 't play)
-people complain about Club A because it's not the first time this kind of things happen in this club.
-people talk in forums because as we said in France "There is no smoke without a Fire"...and i think you could avoid this fire by respecting your line up!
When you print a flyer it's done you can't go back.
For this party on Wednesday you're wrong! i was cancelled before the party and not because there were just 30 people. Club A cancelled me the afternoon before the party but kept Apocalypse, and on the last internet flyers there was only the Apocalypse name...not mine anymore.
And above all i can't believe than you have a nerve to say that the party on Wednesday wasn't your business!!
YOU dealed with Club A to put me on Wednesday because of the problem on friday, and then it was not your problem anymore!! and then when i asked you for some explanation you said it's not my business now!! and then when i asked Camillo (Club A) explanation, he said "see with Fernanda"!!
This is unrespect, it's like leaving me alone and you washing your hands about all this problem!
And for a Manager of a Dj agency supposed to help artist, it's not profesionnal at all!!
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Mar 19, 2004 16:46
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Thanks Charles for making things clear for the ppl!!! I will not say moew about it...
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ohh....and bye the way... for you triptych my friend YOU dont need to feel used(about your name) beacuse....
the club A was
a COMPACT PARTY VS LEVEL DJZ PARTY(with some good artists expect you...)
soo probably that was agood reason also that it was more than 2000 peapole..
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Hey Aviram... What´s the point of this???? Charles never thought he was the big star of the party!
For me sounds like: man, u are not Compact and Level, so u can´t complain. This is EXACTLY what Charles is complaining about Fernanda...
It´s not personal( I really enjoyed the "ride"), but I think u don´t need to write this kind of things. For me it seems that u just don´t respect Charles as artist... And u know CHarles really reapsect your work man...
Btw, still left some stuff from the "trade"???
Botton line: CLUB A USED TRIPTYCH NAME TO MAKE MONEY. (ppl that went for his live+Charles´s fee they didn´t pay).
Thiago Naka |
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