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piXan
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jun 7, 2005 04:08

seems theres some censorship here i go again withoout abusing / degrading languaje:

to all you mp3 pseudo deejays:

you are parasites of these scene, just because u can download (steal) the latest unreleased tracks doesnt mean, its the right thing to do. u are killing psy trance. Let the people who really know how handle the decks. all these wannabe fullon dj frenzy has to stop, or it will destroy the quality of the music we true psyheads love.

am i offending anyone Jeto?           www.soundcloud.com/elektroakustica/sets/downtempo/
s0ft
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Posted : Jun 7, 2005 04:40
great opinion. i support it.

i just think its a wasted effort.           The IsraTrance MySpace Group:
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Hidroponik
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Posted : Jun 7, 2005 16:41
to me, its all about the sound quality. mp3's sound like total shit on a big system. don't put your crowd through that. Especially when you try to mix them with purchased, mastered, CD's. its like oil and water, just doesn't mix well.

Surrender
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Posted : Jun 7, 2005 20:02
just to play devil's advocate:

some of the "great" dj's in our scene started their way by pusing in it with mp3's... they had good tunes and people noticed that they had skill - then later they got connected and did not need the mp3's to stand out.

i agree with Hidroponik about the oil and water thing.. good analogy dude.
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Jun 7, 2005 20:47

i feel like i'm in the first grade. again.


gosh           ..it's just another party..
offthenutboom
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Posted : Jun 7, 2005 22:08
I think we should stop judging others and get forward with what we have to do, support and build a strong community, where the integrating ppl puts their work and effort for the good of the group.
DJ Buju
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 01:45
Quote:

On 2005-06-07 20:02, Surrender wrote:
just to play devil's advocate:

some of the "great" dj's in our scene started their way by pusing in it with mp3's... they had good tunes and people noticed that they had skill - then later they got connected and did not need the mp3's to stand out.



I know you're playing devil's advocate here and i'm sure you don't agree with the mp3 mafia but i'd like to know a few names of these djs and also to understand if you think they stood out @ the time because they had the latest mp3's... ?
I think it's all little kids game which are trying to show who's got the latest unreleased shit when most of them can't even mix properly not to talk about caring about the quality of their music.

I used to play minidiscs back in the day on an amature level @ friends parties but these days i wouldn't dare to do such thing just because of the quality of sound and the fact that beat matching is nearly impossible ( with right timing & bpms i did manage but wasn't the real deal )

Some people have no respect to this special little industry and might not even have one original cd in there case!
And I myself have no respect to such people and wished their would be away to solve this issue. probebly it will never happen...

Bom BOm
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kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 02:01
the sound quality on a bought cd is plenty reason enough to buy your music, but the fact that you get 8-10 songs for 16-20 dollars is insane. when i first started spinning i would spend 12-18 dollars for 2 or 3 tracks and be happy and do it again every week. are psy djs that broke that they cant afford 16 dollars for 8 songs. thats a steal. and the majority of this music we play is made by individuals who are probably broker than us, we must support our scene and these artist. true love and devotion takes sacrifice           
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 02:30
Quote:

On 2005-06-08 01:45, DJ Buju wrote:
i'd like to know a few names of these djs and also to understand if you think they stood out @ the time because they had the latest mp3's... ?



oh no..... that would be telling...
they stood out because they had some good skills, they were noticed because of the combination in my opinion of good skills + good music (mp3's in their case).           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
http://myspace.com/gadimon
mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 03:11
When I first got into psytrance and decided I wanted to play the music, I had no clue about any of the artists or anything like that. I didn't know about any of the web stores or the forums... I did get given a bunch of mp3s and I did play them untill I figured out the stuff that I really liked and began to buy those artists and songs that I enjoyed playing.... You can imagine my surprise when after I recieved my first mail order shipment how good everything sounded... I don't do the download thing anymore, and try to buy as much music as I possibly can afford... Now not everyone is going to have the same philosophies as I do, but if you pull a blind taste test from an mp3 from Soulseek vs a cd or even a 320 mp3 on some one, you might just find that they would enjoy the better quality version. Of course there are going to be those that play this music because it's the thing to do and won't make such an investment in the music...

One thing I will tell you that sucks about buying your cds, when you lose them it hurts.... A lot... (If you are going out of town to play somewhere, take backups or take someone with you that will make sure your cd case ends up where it's supposed to.)
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s0ft
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 04:56
(this is the first mp3 thread that hasnt gotten me instantly mad. good job keeping mature guys and gals.)

i think the END justifies the MEANS. i wont go into too much detail on my opinion, but i still generally feel mp3s are wrong in so many ways.           The IsraTrance MySpace Group:
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droozi
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 06:25
I agree with kameleonpangea36 in terms of having to pay for an entire albumn even though you only want one or two tracks from it. Is there like an Itunes for psy trance? Also i dont think downloading psy trance is a good idea only cause psytrance artists are struggling themselves but music from big recording labels must be downloaded just to hopefully in time get rid of big recording/distribution companies - as punishment for all the years of cheating us and putting music like britney spears and fuckin Ricky whatever out. Fight the system I say.
Jeto
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 08:36
Quote:

On 2005-06-07 04:08, piXan wrote:

seems theres some censorship here i go again withoout abusing / degrading languaje:

to all you mp3 pseudo deejays:

you are parasites of these scene, just because u can download (steal) the latest unreleased tracks doesnt mean, its the right thing to do. u are killing psy trance. Let the people who really know how handle the decks. all these wannabe fullon dj frenzy has to stop, or it will destroy the quality of the music we true psyheads love.

am i offending anyone Jeto?




Is this something new?
Are there not a million threads which end up in arguments about this similar topic.
Comon its no news that there are many DJs playing mp3s... Personally i prefer getting the .wavs of original cd's or buying them. The last resort is mp3. Its ok for home listening or on a "semi big" sound system.. but on a festival or something like this. With really big sund it sounds like shit.
My 2 cents!
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konflux
Konflux

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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 13:01
on the other hand "they" promote music producers world wide. and artists can only make money by playing gigs as of today.
but thanks for bringing it up, pixan! i instantly bought three cds at saikosounds.

and let's not be hypocritical here. we can all play saints but it is a fact that this is hard to afford all music we like or might like. so everyone find their own way to discover music.
ignorance in any sense is what is tragical for the scene and its development.

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dopey576
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 18:02
i agree that mp3 quality is shitty compared to CD quality sound

but do you think psytrance would be so widespread (its is becoming widespread) if people did not share music through soulseek etc?

i really dont think so. as for the $$ that artist loose out on. that is very sad. but its the same story throughout the music industry.

artists need to think of something NEW. offer something on your CDs that you cannot simply download off the internet. The doubleside CD/DVDs are a good innovation. I dunno if it would work for psytrance but something like it could!

how can you blame people for sharing music when the music is there, easily accessable for any1 who wants it + these people dont care if the quality is shit.

if filesharing stops - attendence at parties will also drop.

we are talking about the impossible anyways so artists, record labels etc INNOVATE!


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