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mixing with 7 % technique

full_on
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Posted : Jan 11, 2010 20:13
Real darkpsy DJs use the +777% technique. Works like hell...
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Mandari

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Posted : May 9, 2010 12:44
well,

i did not read all the posts now, but quite cant get the point of need to pitch fast in psychedelic music. im djing for about 10 years now and many styles of music and have to say that psychedelic music to me is the with the only stuff you have tons of time to do your mix. just think of the usual tracks length like 6-7 minutes today, had been even more some years ago (remember many tracks like space tribe etc. running like 12 minutes and stuff=D).

so, if i compare that to techno, electro, minimal or house music, i have to say this is not the style i need a tool for fast pitching.

at the end i cant take a use of it as many tracks are simply not exactly at a specific bpm. im no fan of writing down all bpms and get fooled by a funny guy producer just wrote the track 0,68bpm higher than mentioned.

but i started djing in times were the cdj wasnt released, so i had to train my ears and im pretty lucky with it.

today it´s simply not the same, everyone could dj and this percentage guide is just another tool, similiar to a bpm counting tool.

at the end we have to go with time and think about how to use the tools wisely we get offered. this percentage guide is with the most unreliable technique i know and no one would have used this only 10 years ago. i can get the point for producers who know their bpms, do their liveact as kind of mixture between dj and live or stuff and just need to get to the point. most of them dont dj, they produce.

but hey, djing in electronic music simply is beatmatching and gettin the most out of it. not calculating and playin the next track.....

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mikechedelic
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Posted : Sep 1, 2010 10:47
hello guys!!!!!!!!!!!

i feel more confused than the beginning!!!!!!!!1 lol
but my summary would be, that, for legginess it s ok to use 7% technique meantime,i m training my ears??

i don't really know, cause i m learning how to djing!!
help me out pls!!
tnks!! +vibes dudes!!!
J
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Posted : Sep 1, 2010 20:23
Like Mubali said, you can use as a ball park (reference).
But you must note that it may change acording to the track tempo.

http://forum.isratrance.com/beatmatch-the-0-7-rule/
Dennis the menace
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Posted : Sep 9, 2010 09:39
Screw the 0.7% method!! This is how you do it.

1. Set the pitchrange to 6%
2. Adjust the pitch until the bpm om the cdj changes to the closest value and go back one step.
3. do the same on the other cdj and voila, you are as close to a perfect beatmatch as you can get on the cdj's.
Mike A
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Posted : Oct 9, 2010 11:19
Wouldn't that be considered cheating by some?
Dennis the menace
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Posted : Oct 10, 2010 19:17
All styles are good except the tiresome kind.
V3NOM
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Posted : Oct 11, 2010 12:17
I just play around until the beats match. I don't use a "technique".

I think this rule is ok to be the basis but it's far form perfection.

I think it is better to just dj and beat match the way is most comfortable for you.

I still sometimes like to do outro - intro because these bits are the best for some tracks and can work like a massive break/build up.

I also sometimes in my dark psy sets have been known to drop in short 30 second-1 minute section from my death metal/grindcore collection just to confuse the hell outta people           I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
mudpeople
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Posted : Oct 22, 2010 23:52
the .7% algorithm works well for a certain bpm range, 138-148 if i remember right. Slower it is, the closer to .8% a single bpm is, faster it is, closer to .6%. I think its only in the middle at 143 that a single bpm is .7% on the dot, if using anything with more precise pitch adjustments you can get em even more synced if you want. Its important to remember that its almost never actually .7 on the nose. Ive always used the .7 technique to get in the ballpark, then make small adjustments if need be. And any lower than 138 and its closer to .8 than .7, any higher than 148 its closer to .6, but again, all have more decimal places after the .7.

Loose guide/ballpark estimate/basic skill/not always accurate/good place to start

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