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dirtyphreak
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 06:46:43
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kriz
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 08:11
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the problem with the 7% is it's not very precise and also once you get below 138 or above 148 bpm you can't use anymore.
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 10:19
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pitch it with 0.02% to get it more precise, just set the pitchrange to 6%
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polly
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 11:43
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0.7 rule is good but can also get you into serious troubles  if that is all you need. i see world thru mathematic and i love to play with numbers and see why you put 0.7 but if you dont see it you can seriously get into trouble.
people think that its rule not a guideline.
i have had one dj palying in my party who said that your cd player is broken.
I checked from counter that it was 148 and i needed to drop two beats and i put 1.4 and it wasnt maching
do people use counters or no?
i mainly use counters just cause it saves little time  not much but maybe 20-30 secs but sometimes all time that u have is needed
but counters are my helpers not anything to lean on
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 14:47
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 15:16
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On 2009-04-17 14:47, x-rayz wrote:
never hear of that 7 % technique, can u enlight me please
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He meant .7%. Meaning that a pitch change of .7% on your decks = 1bpm tempo change in the track.
Why would anyone use this? The .7% approximation should only be used to get you close to the tempo.
Also, not all decks allow you to adjust by .02% so it's useless when you have to play on decks without it (ie- cdj 800s). http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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RK9
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 18:00
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People actually do this? Come on guys beatmatching by ear is not that hard. |
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 18:14
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On 2009-04-17 18:00, RK9 wrote:
People actually do this? Come on guys beatmatching by ear is not that hard.
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yeah Im shocked too.. and since I customized pitches on my decks I doubt that 0.7 works anyway.. also that would mean I would have to know bpm of every track, either label it or scan and write ID3 tag on the track.. Thats too high tech and advanced for me, I dont mess with that, its easier for me too mix by ear, not complicated at all, u just play the track, tune the pitch and there u go.. all u have to do is try and do it until u make it right and mixing with that so called technique wont help at all..
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dirtyphreak
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 20:32
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RK9
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 23:29
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On 2009-04-17 20:32, dirtyphreak wrote:
why can't you use it anymore if you go into those bpm ranges ?
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Well I mean
140 * 1.007 = 140.98
but for example
200 * 1.007 = 201.40
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50 * 1.007 = 50.35 |
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 01:22
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i have always used maths to adjust pitch perfectly, since the first momment I used a cdj the most natural thing to me wasto calculate it how much change in the pitch I need to get 1 bpm change? wasthe question i frist did and I still make to my self and then I do the maths, call me crazy but this is the way its natural for me
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Suloo
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 01:48
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i think its quite useful actualy..sure doesn`t work on every track since they are not all produced on streight bpm values like 145..some are 145.68 or something then it might work longer/better to use 0.8 or something but for me it works good..
i heard not every player works with this rule..just the pioneer ones
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 03:52
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I have become familiar with the following method:
lst say we have a track at 128 bpm and we want 1 bpm change ok?
1% of 128= 1.28
.10%= .128... This is the important value. how many times I need to substract to match 1 BPM change?
1.28 .-.126 = 1.154, -.126= 1.028 and you are done....
So at each speed just think how much is the 1% and then subtract .1% to match just 1 BPM change.
Its not hard at all. and its very usefull for songs you know are at like 128.9, you go up.1% and now you know it is at at 129 and you adjust normal. A song at 126..5? Ok you need .5 bpm change so .1% = .126 + .126 + .126 +.126 =.504, so you need a change +/- .40% and you are done.
No matter the speed of the tracks this always work.
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mubali
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 08:46
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I've used the technique as a ballpark approximation of where the pitch needs to be. Say I know that my track that is playing is one speed, and the other one I'm cueing is 2 or 3 bpm slower, it shaves some time to just bump it up the +1.4% than slowly creep up the pitch while trying to keep it in time. Also, if you don't know what speed you're playing, but you can obviously tell that the track you're cueing is a significant amount faster or slower, you can use those percentage amounts as places to start while you're trying to get the beat matched, if it's still drifting, keep adjusting by that multiple till it's close enough to fine tune.
I have a personal rule that if I have to majorly adjust a track more than twice in the first 8 bars, then I need to adjust at least a bpm.. Once I only have to do minute adjustment, then I can just fine tune it with my ears... The .7% concept is just a timesaving technique for this particular style of music. Not a rule per say, but more of a mental tool to help minimize the time it will take you to find the correct speed.
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