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mixing with 7 % technique

Alecu Babaleku
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Posted : Jun 27, 2009 07:28
Thx guys for this tip!
I didn't know nothing about this 0.7% .
now i move much more easier with the tracks and everything is going much better           carpe diem
PsyGZ

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Posted : Jun 30, 2009 02:25
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On 2009-04-18 08:46, mubali wrote:
I've used the technique as a ballpark approximation of where the pitch needs to be. Say I know that my track that is playing is one speed, and the other one I'm cueing is 2 or 3 bpm slower, it shaves some time to just bump it up the +1.4% than slowly creep up the pitch while trying to keep it in time. Also, if you don't know what speed you're playing, but you can obviously tell that the track you're cueing is a significant amount faster or slower, you can use those percentage amounts as places to start while you're trying to get the beat matched, if it's still drifting, keep adjusting by that multiple till it's close enough to fine tune.
I have a personal rule that if I have to majorly adjust a track more than twice in the first 8 bars, then I need to adjust at least a bpm.. Once I only have to do minute adjustment, then I can just fine tune it with my ears... The .7% concept is just a timesaving technique for this particular style of music. Not a rule per say, but more of a mental tool to help minimize the time it will take you to find the correct speed.




exactly right....people need to stop being so snooty and thinking you either use this method or not.......Of course you can't rely on anything...you use it as a benchmark, and then adjust....It is a great thing to teach new DJs too, so that they can get an idea and learn to hear what beat matching sounds like....Then, they can perfect their craft...
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 02:10
Beatmatching is the easy part. Choose tracks that will fit well and making the transitions in a smoother way or any other appropriated way is the real challenge.

Of course, making a fast and perfect beatmatch will leave you much more time to concentrate in EQing and making the transition itself.
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ozon3

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Posted : Jul 7, 2009 06:21
beatmatching mathematics perfect sincronization for the eqing.........boom Mubali, Basilisk, and tsabeat....
psydraulix
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Posted : Jul 8, 2009 01:10
.7 is the percentage change in bpm's
If you want the exact number and know the BPM, you can divide the # of beats per minute you want to change your incoming track by by the BPM of the incoming track. So if you're playing a song at 130 BPM and you want to mix a track at 145 in, the difference is -15 beats per minutes, so -15/145 will give you the precise percentage change you need to make the 145bpm track run at 130bpm.
the plus/minus ratio is easy, if the track currently playing is 130, well you'll obviously have to slow the 145 track down to make it match, so it's minus 15.

There, I just killed the magic.           Peace Love Unity:
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Psynthex
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Posted : Jul 13, 2009 03:44
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On 2009-07-08 01:10, psydraulix wrote:
.7 is the percentage change in bpm's
If you want the exact number and know the BPM, you can divide the # of beats per minute you want to change your incoming track by by the BPM of the incoming track. So if you're playing a song at 130 BPM and you want to mix a track at 145 in, the difference is -15 beats per minutes, so -15/145 will give you the precise percentage change you need to make the 145bpm track run at 130bpm.
the plus/minus ratio is easy, if the track currently playing is 130, well you'll obviously have to slow the 145 track down to make it match, so it's minus 15.

There, I just killed the magic.




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Posted : Jul 13, 2009 05:59
it seems djs are not good at math?           "The dedication to repetition the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
Psynthex
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Posted : Jul 13, 2009 20:20
Hehehehe well sorry.. but truelly: I dont get this one!! Should those DJs who cant mix by their ears use calculator on every gig?

and that calculating the difference of BPMs between original track etc.. lala ??? Sounds strange, dont you think?

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Posted : Jul 13, 2009 20:46
http://forum.isratrance.com/beatmatch-the-0-7-rule/
Shiranui
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Posted : Jul 14, 2009 07:03
At the festival this past weekend I was watching someone DJ and he was obviously having trouble beatmatching.

I went up, hoping that the problem was that he didn't know how to use the mixer (DJM-707) or that the monitors were messed up or something.

So I ask "What's the problem?"

"I can't see the BPM counters because it's too bright out!"

Psynthex
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Posted : Jul 14, 2009 07:36
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On 2009-07-14 07:03, Shiranui wrote:
At the festival this past weekend I was watching someone DJ and he was obviously having trouble beatmatching.

I went up, hoping that the problem was that he didn't know how to use the mixer (DJM-707) or that the monitors were messed up or something.

So I ask "What's the problem?"

"I can't see the BPM counters because it's too bright out!"





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Shiranui
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Posted : Jul 14, 2009 07:48
BPM counters are a great aid to beatmatching but if you can't mix at ALL without them? come on...

I mean I definitely use BPM counters when they're available but I don't need them and didn't even when I'd been mixing less than 1 year
Sakyamuni
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Posted : Jul 17, 2009 20:16
I learned playing in vinyl. There are no meters for BPM, jog, no other action. It is only heard.
I find interesting to learn that way, without using the resources that have CDJs.
But in any case, the 0.7 "rule" works most often. It's good for those who are starting. Once you learn to use more the ear.
Thanks to everyone who contributed tips.

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Posted : Jul 23, 2009 09:16
it even works with vynil, you just have to count the beats and know how the pitch works, more modern turntables are enogh accurate to do it properly.           "The dedication to repetition the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
Stregone
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Posted : Aug 10, 2009 08:04
0.7 is usefull for saving time as said...

Beatmatching I think is the minimal thing to do for a trance dj....

Whats more is the choose of music and makes the people dancing and enjoying....

Not all dj's do that at all....
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