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psy-goa


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Posted : Aug 8, 2014 11:22
fuck genres fuck races fuck politics fuck religion! love and light from israel peace and love and innoncent children
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Mandari

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Posted : Aug 8, 2014 12:53
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On 2014-08-08 11:22, psy-goa wrote:
fuck genres fuck races fuck politics fuck religion! love and light from israel peace and love and innoncent children




man whats wrong with you??? looking your recent posts (not only this thread!!) i somehow got the weird feeling you should piss the fkk off!! open your own thread for your fkkn garbage!!! this is not the one you should spam with your pseudoempathic ejaculations.... so pls do me a favor and spread your narrowminded hatred elsewhere!!

colin, pls... could you advice this milkyface some guiding rules so i dont have to get upset loosing my deep relaxed mindset??

sorry for getting emotional again, but im fed up with guys like you psy-goa..... keep it diplomatic and chill or go elsewhere.... jumpin around and spreading your emotional impact in threads that are not supposed to be opened for this.... is plain wrong way to give your opinion a voice! and the way you do that..... nah, forget about it...

just pls open your own thread and beg it not to get closed by your offensive pseudoblahblah.



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Mandari

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Posted : Aug 8, 2014 13:32
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I have had death threats and been called anti-Zionist and self-hating Jew and been told if I come back to Israel I'm going home in a coffin, and that Trance Israel United group has a nice image of my band's logo with a big red line through it, alongside the ones of Benji Vaughn, Simon Posford, TIP Records, Elysium etc. Good company to be in.


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this back in a coffin thingy made me jiggle n dropped my heartbeat twice the same time :/

they seem to stock up constantly. funny thing though they closed the group now, making it private. one cant see anyomre whats goin on there without joining. sadly had to join now... i anyways think they sure will reject my request, cause of my 2 minutes with this ory lang guy and nectarios.... ^^

infact this ..... whatever you wanna call him came over to me claiming nectarios being a lier who i shouldnt trust. i shared his pic of some israeli guys infront of simon and benji wielding israeli flag next to his raised middlefinger. i dont need to post his garbage... im glad nectarios just erased that whole shit before i did. seems a bit lost, cause any PR for those fkkcunts is good PR.

fun thing to observe some artists right mindset now. i was deeply shocked by whom i saw there taking place and supporting this group.... sadly. i mean wow....it still shocks me ppl i thought different about and partly thought to know them....
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TimeTraveller
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 8, 2014 14:31
I see the member list there. Even sandman and perfect stranger's there. And lots of other known names. All those genocide and war crime-supporters shouldn't get any more bookings anywhere else on this planet.

If this scene is not just about drugs than noone should anymore go for a party if see some of them war crime supporters on the line up. Also if the goa/psytrance festival organizers are not just about money then all these really strange names shouldn't appear anymore on any flyer/line up.

Thinking about skipping a party I wanted to go for -Psy-fi- ,just because of line up with some of them.
I won'T spend anymore money that could fall later in hands of some of that closed narrow minds that support murder of innocent children or other fascistoid actions.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Aug 8, 2014 15:14
I just got banned (not that I ever played there or had any bookings) from playing Israel, ever, because I said to a member (who asked my booking info) of that group that I don't want anything to do with the people in that group.
When I said that he said he will add me to the people that group is against...

Oh well.
          
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The Hypnotic LFO Room


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Posted : Aug 8, 2014 16:11
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On 2014-08-08 14:31, TimeTraveller wrote:
Even sandman and perfect stranger's there.



To Perfect Strangers defence he is there to observe (or has been added without approval) and has himself had problems with some of those members for example standing up for Benji at Benji's Facebook wall. He is not one of the "Guys" there.

However Ace Ventura is indeed "one of the guys" there and is one of those who called me anti-semitic etc.

The funny thing is:

"In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם‎, translated as "name") was first used to refer to a language family of West Asian origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Ahlamu, Akkadian (Assyrian-Babylonian), Amharic, Ammonite, Amorite, Arabic, Aramaic/Syriac, Canaanite (Phoenician/Carthaginian/Hebrew), Chaldean, Eblaite, Edomite, Ge'ez, Maltese, Mandaic, Moabite, Sutean, Tigre and Tigrinya, and Ugaritic, among others."
OzMike
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 9, 2014 04:49
If they weren't starting these hate/name and shame campaigns against other musicians I'd happily separate the political views from the music of said musicians, but these hate really to me show a low levels of education and global understanding. Israel is starting to behave like Russia with their "with us or against us" attitude and it win them no fans at all.

Maybe the rest of the world should let both sides just battle it out and wait for the dust to literally settle. Then we see who has survived and "won".

Too bad Israel is backed by USA and the rest politically and weaponised by them. Without this support the fight would be much more fair.           Revisiting the past.
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Aug 9, 2014 10:25
Its the whole "if you don't like our campaign against Benji, Simon and the rest, you are automatically against Israel's fight for existance" thing that does not sit right with me...yes they are at war but they have lost the plot.
The "Jew hater/antisemitic", "stamp" gets thrown around like "hello" these last few months, especially.

Also the "play your music and STFU", does not apply in this scene for me. Psytrance is more than music.

Sad to see "open minded people" spit out this kind of hate.
          
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Xolvexs
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Aug 9, 2014 13:18
no one can be right in a world thats wrong           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
Xolvexs
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Aug 9, 2014 15:03
Quote:

On 2014-08-02 18:38, klippel wrote:
this discussion here gives a pretty good picture why there will not be a quick solution to the conflict.




totally agree with you           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
The Hypnotic LFO Room


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Posted : Aug 9, 2014 18:15
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On 2014-08-09 10:25, Nectarios wrote:
Sad to see "open minded people" spit out this kind of hate.

The "Jew hater/antisemitic", "stamp" gets thrown around like "hello" these last few months, especially



The point is. They are not open minded people. They are extreme right wing supporters or even more correct "Nationalists" and we all know such people are far from being open minded.

The "Jew hater/antisemitic", "stamp" has been thrown around for decades mate.
*eLliSDee*
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 9, 2014 23:43
its ironic with that wall and shit. seems like they think themselves superior with uncle sam's backup or something. seems like jews are the new nazi's . all those years of hypocrital cries of unfairness. and given half a chance would do the same to another nation.. shame on these artists.



moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 10, 2014 00:43
Quote:

On 2014-08-09 04:49, OzMike wrote:

Too bad Israel is backed by USA and the rest politically and weaponised by them. Without this support the fight would be much more fair.




there is no such thing as "fair" fight. the only fair fight happens if the strong part is strong enough to lose on purpose - and this will be no fight at all.

in any "fight" there is a stronger and weaker side: the weaker part will tend to call the stronger part brutal, and the stronger part will tend to use any means to protect itself if its existence is threatened. this process is so logical that you would need to change the whole human and animal nature to stop this happening. the truth is that the strong part is always brutal - the act of winning a fight or a war has nothing to do with human ethics.

anyway, strange, i was recently in another international forum where there was a big thread about one of the best festivals i ever visitied and where people discussed about the nazi organizer (very seriously calling him nazi or unter the influence of right wing). same story another country.

conclusion: better stay away from everything. is is either a kindergarten or they are "all" just insane.

Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Aug 11, 2014 11:28
I find it interesting that Faxi Nadu came back to me on Facebook about last winter, said he wanted to be friends again and that it should not be about politics, it should be about the music, I agreed with him, re added him as my friend, things went well until the current Israel-Gaza conflict started. I have been neutral throughout this conflict, not because I take sides for either party and don't want to be pissing the other side off, but simply because I am against conflict and for peace, period. Apparently he has blocked me again, I really wonder why this time? What a shame but then again, who am I to stop someone from blocking me?

If I had to guess a lot of the current aggression of Israeli trance scene towards the rest of the rest of the international trance scene is that they are really afraid, no one is taking the Israeli side anymore except for a few asshole politicians who are crawling up some American ass, and no one likes them anymore so they feel more and more isolated and the walls are caving in more and more...

Furthermore, if someone like Ace Ventura is joining said Israeli right wing forum, I say he should be boycotted from all parties, apart from the fact that his music suxx IMO, someone like that should be blocked until they change their mind and I quote from one of the earliest 80s Goa tracks "Come in peace for all mankind"! Because that is what trance is really about.
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht

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Posted : Aug 11, 2014 16:01
the walls are caving in???

upavas, i banned you because you are a fake asshole, just to be clear. i pre-emptivley banned you because of the exact bullshit i knew you would be writing. same as i banned nectarios because he is a fake asshole, and same for colin and all you other patheric fucks.

but you, sir upavas are the biggest faker of them all. a little nazi minded elitist hippie that follows the biggest fake person that ever lived in osho, to me that says it all about you and what you stand for. somehow you just looooooove talking about israel and jews, nothing gets your juices flowing more than a nice talk about american satan and jew conspiracies huh..... do i detect a bit of an inferiority complex there?

so you are all gathering on an israeli forum to bash israel? LOL i'm starting to think all of you have small peens or something, don't you have something to do that like i donno, has to do with your own life?

have fun.
          
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