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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 27, 2002 12:47
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peace..peace..peace..
realy..
undefined directions our talks went..
and im sure if u miss moksha times so klagnstrahler project releases will fit to fill your nostalgie.. same sound and feeling..
[ This Message was edited by: Zombi Cocktail on 2002-09-27 15:34 ]  Believe your soul ! |
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 27, 2002 18:04
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example to the paradox - last night,pacha club,frank e and serge play.. ?? friend of mine wanted go there and said me "well,its a only place u can hear frank e play in israel..".. understand what i mean ?? frank e and serge play at club (??) and oryx and son kite plays at nature.. paradox.. isnt it have to be opposite afuh ??
and such examples all around.. looks we in israel have very not right imagination about parties and music.. realy..
why nature org groups dont book psy artists (and believe me i was going to nature party with frank e) and why clubs bring them ??
isnt alegria,space safari etc fit to our great open air clubs as oktapus or 102 fm much better then serge or logic bomb ??
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shahar
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Posted : Sep 27, 2002 18:34
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money thing.
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 28, 2002 19:38
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armaney..
alot nature production have around 1000 ppl crowd so i dont realy see why the money keep them broder in booking thing. imo just tottal nonunderstanding of the deal itself..
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shahar
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Posted : Sep 28, 2002 20:15
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Because they're only in it for the money...
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"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
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Mike A
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Posted : Sep 28, 2002 21:39
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Why money is such a bad thing?
As long as there's a good party, who cares about the money?
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yossi
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Posted : Sep 28, 2002 22:41
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u will care about money when every thing will b around it and for it.
and the day is not so far 
if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch! |
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 29, 2002 09:51
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so the conclusion - both sides (clubs and nature org) into it only coze money. and they (mostly) know shit about music/party/psy culture..
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Sep 29, 2002 12:09
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zombi
well as i said
be selective with parties
for some orginizers money still not isue to make a party
some of orginisers do their parties with no wish to get money from it
but some making big comertial parties without any tact
so again be selective
but dont make conclusions that we do it for money and dont understand shit about music
with all the respect i think i can teach u what music is and how to make a parties AND what psyculture is (not to harm)
and not only that .....
alot of parties even dont cover the invest's
then money is isue
but why should u care about it???
and man i think u over reacting with this treat
let it go
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Sep 29, 2002 12:14
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and about frank e and serge
u have to understand something small that i dont think regilar raver knows
there is a monopoly for bringing big names
and yes pacha and other clubs hold alot of dj's under their monopoly (its a stink world)
those clubs holds contracts with artists that noone exept them can bring them to israel
and if someone want to bring those artist have to do it thru same club that own the contract (and that outdoor parties orginisers cant afford)
so yea i think u wont hear Frank E ,Serge,Simon and lotsa other good artists at small nature parties
i hope ive helped u to solve u'r paradox
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 29, 2002 16:52
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teach me Master..
tell me about it..
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Posted : Sep 29, 2002 17:02
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well as far as i know it's not the clubs that has contracts with the artists,its certain people.
and those people prefer to make their party's at club's like the pacha octops ect... |
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 29, 2002 17:10
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ok here we go:
private party org groups make a bokkings and parties itself. they YEAS have a exclusive contacts (5meo-geo - do u realy think u open here some deep secrets ?? no.. btw - i respect your way,at least your party with texas and krumelur,exelent choice my friend).
the thing im talking about - most of indoor parties have a top notch psy line ups (that sounds very crapy to me indoor) and the fact they do it its a age. why age ?? coze most big org groups is a old org groups.. but they dont refresh the sounds at their parties and stuck on goa for a years without any chance to step forward..
big nature prod books fluffy acts (that i prefer to all others) but do it becoze a fashion only. they do not fit the line ups and their crowd (nature karahana ppl) dont like this sounds.. btw - the exlcusive thing here exist also.
there is big indoors and there is big outdoors,the only thing they should make its change the music coze music change itself all the time and looks alot of org forgot about it..
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 29, 2002 17:20
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ah,btw - 5meo-geo - i maked two parties in my life (both were almost with no ppl,so i decided i better will spend money on better things) and it was 3 years ago, i also played on some party with 500-700 ppl i think (itzik ben isti's/bat yam mafia party at gaash) so i have a minimal clue what it all about..
about "be selective" thing - i probably going to moksha's parties and thats all. here and there i go to some other one. and alots clubs of course !! at 2000 i probably didnt went to outdoors at all.. after the boom i felt like im not into open airs in israel.. time then were few aprties and i didnt choosed at all but only wanted to get info about "party" in the deep past..
[ This Message was edited by: Zombi Cocktail on 2002-09-29 18:21 ] Believe your soul ! |
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Sep 29, 2002 20:38
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zombi i hope u r not angry... 
so there is no paradox and no problems dude
different crowd
different parties
different orginisers
find u'r way in that "forest"
and about contracts...
if u know that u'll probobly never hear frank e at outdoors why u still asking "why"???
well i think there is lotsa other MUCH BETTER artist that we still can book,and ye i prefer to bring someone spetial and not someone fame/comertial
and OLDSCHOOL GOA STILL OWNS ALL NOVADAYS VIBES
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