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motorik
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 20:14
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This one is more directed to the artist among you but i would like to hear anyones comment.
I just read some of the artist interviews in the isratrance forum and in the beat hackers interview i bumped into a very annoying stuff they said (quote from the artical) :
"We'd like to do progressive and we even started with it, but as soon as we switched to full on, we got booked all over the world and success followed. This is the mainstream, and this is what the crowd wants."
As someone who pretends to be a musician I think musicians should do whatever they like and go wherever the musical impulse push them.
Music should be art and art should be created from the heart .
This is only IMHO.
Is it all about the money nowadays? !!!! 
What you artist/musicians or any of you guys think about it?
salute
motorik
P.S. in my words i don't mean to harm or insult anyone and i hope i didn't!!!!!!
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TiMMY
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 20:36
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From a new Violet Vision interview, soon to be published on Isratrance:
"I think that good music is authentic, and that’s my final answer. Doesn’t matter which style, sometimes you can even hear the singing of the gypsies and it’s good, and you’re really not into that style. Or hear a house track, totally house and… That’s good music. Good music is music that you hear that was done from the heart, that you hear it’s real and feel it in the music. "
But, whatever you may say, people like Beat Hackers, their stuff works on the dancefloor and they get a lot acknowledgement. |
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Anak
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 20:48
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motorik
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 20:48
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Timmy
I might be wrong but what i meant is that from what they said in the artical it sounds like they want to make prog. music but they do full on because they get more booking ,etc...
I know that good music is good music doesn't matter what kind or style it is but thats not what i meant and your answer is very clear but you probably didn't understand what i was trying to say.
I didn't hear too much of beat hackers and from what i heard they are quite good ,and maybe if they really like prog. trance and they will do it they will be very good or even better in that style and get the same booking or even more.
i took Beat hackers just as an example i got nothing personal against them or their music.
salute
motorik
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ND
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 21:09
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add me to violet vision! it's all about music 
anyway, not only artists, tell the labels to experiment too. i'm sure many in the public love some other stuff too.
hmm... maybe that's the reason, i think i gonna do some mainstream fullon then labels will sign me fast 
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medir
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 21:40
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On 2004-04-26 21:09, PROSECT wrote:
anyway, not only artists, tell the labels to experiment too. i'm sure many in the public love some other stuff too.
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experiment !
make it your motto day and night.
experiment,
and it will lead you to the light.
the apple on the top of the tree
is never too high to achieve,
so take an example from eve...
experiment ! |
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TiMMY
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Posted : Apr 26, 2004 23:41
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I think I understood you perfectly motorik
What Jonathan from VV said was that good music comes from the heart (meaning it's the music you want to make).
Beat Hackers want to make prog so I guess their music doesn't really come from the heart.
Or maybe I'm wrong? |
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Dominorbit
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 00:25
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as from the interview you quoted there Timmy, i agree on that, i think we all felt that there´s something that we like in every style.
Jonathan/Violet Vision words sums it all up really.
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dj jaimz
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 03:24
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I don't think it's all about the money. Rather, money is an important factor in an artists decision. Given the choice between something they really, deeply, truely love which will give them no chance at making any money, and something that they quite enjoy and have a lot of fun with that will get them financial security, I'm sure most artists will go with the second, and experiment with the first on the side. Doesn't this make sense? For some lucky artists what they truely love is also what makes money for them, and they are the lucky ones. But for others a compromise between art and money has to be made, or they are not able to work as much on their music as they would like.
But all about the money? No, I don't think so. Not for any artists. |
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silici0
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 09:15
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I just saw one those most bealtiful dj set progressive from brazil start play fullon, because of money...
I´m talking about Dj Mauricio Garcia (kamaraum) in the Comp.act records now, before that he was in iboga crew.
I think some those just look for money. But there is a lot of those that just play for LOVE! One those that i think is Infected Mushuroom.
If i´m wrong tell me !! :~
Cya.
P.L.U.R.
Silici0.O_o
No More, No Less, NO STRESS !!
Good Vibe, THINK positive AlWaYs.
Cya.
Hugs.Silici0. |
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KINO OKO
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 11:48
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since we released bigwigs "fraktalik fraterniti" our bookings disapeard rapidly. our decision was to move style of our music to full-on area of spectrum of trance music. im sorry guys but we have had no reason to compose such an experimental tracks because:
- there is no way to release nonfoolon tracks
- nobody want to listen to nonfoolon tracks
- nobody want to book us for live
- nobody respect us and call us "enemy"
- everybody look at us and say "fool-on or die"
i hope you understand our decision. |
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motorik
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 12:55
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I might be wrong but i think there are enough people who like prog. music and loove to hear it and dance to it's beats at the party ,I guess TICON or SENSIENT or XV KILLIST or SON KITE do the music they like and they still get booked in many parties (from what i see around).
Maybe there is more space for fullon artists but if you are good you will be booked in your own style.
This is a bit of sliding from the issue but Wouldn't it be good if the party organizers stop calling all the D.J. who just collect music and let the real artists the one who creates the music play in the parties , of course on the other hand artists will have to ask for less money for a show ( i think one of the reasons party organizers call the DJ to show it's because they coast less) But still there will be more room available so they might get less per show but they will get more shows to play in.
Just a thought....
salute
motorik
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sea of life
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 13:48
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well what bigwigs was writing is truely what is going on in the trance scene. u can even see that in the promo section. how much is reacting to talamsca or skazi and how much react to the prog stuff. it's a big problem. if someone is doing the music only for fun and he have a job that he can live from it's one thing but if someone is acttualy wants to make a living only from trance than he prob have to do full on. sad but true.
and the son kite example is really only one...cuzz somehow they manage to do amazing live that everyone connect to. but thats usually not happening with prog stuff.
u prob don't know it motorik but some artists who wanna do prog just work in a regular job to support themselfs and do the music only cuzz they love it. (anyway that's how i think it should be) |
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Surrender
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 13:50
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On 2004-04-27 03:24, dj jaimz wrote:
I don't think it's all about the money. Rather, money is an important factor in an artists decision. Given the choice between something they really, deeply, truely love which will give them no chance at making any money, and something that they quite enjoy and have a lot of fun with that will get them financial security, I'm sure most artists will go with the second, and experiment with the first on the side. Doesn't this make sense? For some lucky artists what they truely love is also what makes money for them, and they are the lucky ones. But for others a compromise between art and money has to be made, or they are not able to work as much on their music as they would like.
But all about the money? No, I don't think so. Not for any artists.
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exactly. in the real world the key word for every passing day is: compromise...
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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ND
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Posted : Apr 27, 2004 13:52
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KINO OKO u must be kidding...
this album rocks and will rock. you got a twisted funky brains up there.
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- there is no way to release nonfoolon tracks
- nobody want to listen to nonfoolon tracks
- nobody want to book us for live
- nobody respect us and call us "enemy"
- everybody look at us and say "fool-on or die"
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can't believe it... enemy? foolon? this is foolish, hehe...
Without Deviation, Progress Is Not Possible.
www.andivision.com
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