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How come mixed cds don`t sell in our scene??

psilocybe
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Posted : Apr 21, 2004 13:31
Mike A seems to have the most sense here... i like to hear a track as an entire package, beginning to end..no interruptions..           ****andmysoulsbeenpsychedelicized****
micromusic


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Posted : Apr 21, 2004 22:40
i would buy a lot more mixed cd's if there was a place in town that sold them, where i could listen first. we have one good place that sells trance, but it's 95% song cd's, very very few mix cd's.

i have friends that tell me the same as well.
Taku
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 11:26
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On 2004-04-17 20:00, benjaminlee wrote:
I just want to say that one mix disc that I listen to all the time - because it really gives me hope - is Eyal Yankovich's Retro: 10 Years of Israeli Trance Vol.1. It really does demonstrate a lot of technique, in all aspects.



i totally agree mate!! this cd is very special!! i think i-zen was also involved in this mixing as well....
other great mixed cd to be mentioned is "digital dj mixed by marcus of son kite" simply amazin
odysseus
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 17:11
In the house scene there are many mixed cd's into the market by house dj's ...why do you think in our scene there aren't any (just compilations)... do you think it's good or bad? helpfull for the scene/artists etc. or not?
          give me darma, take your karma..
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 17:17
Cause most psy-trance DJs can't mix

Anyway...probably cause mixed CDs are not DJ friendly and that would knock the sales back a bit.
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odysseus
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 17:25
my post goes also about progressive trance scene & djs

so do you think that all the consumers of trance cds are djs 14 year old e-tard?

in house scene also there are so many djs but there are alot of mix cds in the market..

do u think is nice for the scene and the producer-djs also?
i mean if the labels give the opportunity to some trance djs -producers to release some mix cds they would be more well known & famous after that ..
i think the same happens in house scene..
or not?           give me darma, take your karma..
Pt.
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 17:33
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On 2006-02-21 17:17, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
Anyway...probably cause mixed CDs are not DJ friendly and that would knock the sales back a bit.



Dam di da dam dam do do!

But in a way, Odysseus got a small point. I mean, "Magik", "Forbidden Paradise", "In Trance We Trust" and other (once) great compilations wouldn’t be the same if they where un-mixed. Something very special about those compilations was that the whole album was ONE, as in one experience and one floating river. I do agree that psy-trance albums should not be mixed (Mixed compilations are also a bit "Oh hail the DJ" and not so DJ suitable) much because of the reason "14" wrote. but, i would like to see more compilers or more gifted compilers make better transitions from one track to another. To often it sucks when your playing one album from A-Z and the breaks in between each track fucks up your flow/trip. One should be able to make ULTRA light transitions from A to B. There are ways of doing this with-out ruining the DJ tool potential of the album. -Be more creative.

This goes especially for Chill compilations. But no one listens. Everyone’s to afraid.

http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/79029/forum/10

I like the topic, but in the end. It's what "14" said that counts. Also for me. I wouldnt like mu psy-trance compilations to be mixed.
Maybe before, but not now.
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 17:38
The last 5 years we have witnessed the demise of the "trance" DJ, simply because everyone wants to go and see their favourite artists (producers in this case) play out live. So the interested is growing smaller and smaller. DJs are used to fill the opening and sometimes closing sets.
Also the DJ is a stronger entity in the house scene. The connection between that music and the people who spin records is much stronger. How many times have you seen a psy-trance DJ mix at 3-4 decks simultaneously? How many times have you seen trance DJs mix acapellas on top of a whole track?
A good trance DJ is mainly judged upon the selection of tunes. I mean you have people who can't even mix playing the main slots!
In the house/tech-house scene, things are different.
Its just the rules of the game in these two genres.           Me>You
Nathan
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 17:50
What about this one?
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/hom/hom2cd029.html           -=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning=
KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 17:51
Topic merge here....

Odyseuss, just do what you want with opening numerous threads in the djs and artists section each time you see a new name on a CD... But in this section I dare you to use the search tool to check if what you wanna deal with is discussed already or not, okie ?? You'll be kind...           .
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Pt.
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 18:00
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On 2006-02-21 17:38, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
The last 5 years we have witnessed the demise of the "trance" DJ, simply because everyone wants to go and see their favourite artists (producers in this case) play out live. So the interested is growing smaller and smaller. DJs are used to fill the opening and sometimes closing sets.
Also the DJ is a stronger entity in the house scene. The connection between that music and the people who spin records is much stronger. How many times have you seen a psy-trance DJ mix at 3-4 decks simultaneously? How many times have you seen trance DJs mix acapellas on top of a whole track?
A good trance DJ is mainly judged upon the selection of tunes. I mean you have people who can't even mix playing the main slots!
In the house/tech-house scene, things are different.
Its just the rules of the game in these two genres.




Once again, "14" says it all. Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop DJ's are also very admirable. They got loads of real DJ talents. To see Infected or Astrix on a DJ top list is embarrassing. Real DJ's exists in other genres then trance.
“We” trance DJ's got a easy job compared to the lot.
odysseus
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 18:07
hahaha

keep moderate the trance section like this and leave the dj artist section for the others man..
and don"t dare me man,,keep the kots down slowly &
try to be more polite plz..
maybe u''ll start to like psychedelic trance after that ..
          give me darma, take your karma..
KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 18:10
My bad, the translation was awful sorry, I meant "I'm asking you to use the search"..           .
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Pt.
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 18:11
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On 2006-02-21 18:07, odysseus wrote:
hahaha

maybe u''ll start to like psychedelic trance after that ..



..

hehe, my friend. Kako-man knows his psychedelic music and moods. Belive me! And after reading a lot about your taste and flavor to "psy-trance" lately, I would say that your speaking to a bright mirror, hehe. Learn psy my ass.
yeah yeah. Anyway. I'm sorry, I just had to comment this as I felt a bit offended my self. I agree a lot with his music taste. And I know my psychedelics

*All with a smile*
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 12:42
Quote:

On 2006-02-21 17:25, odysseus wrote:
my post goes also about progressive trance scene & djs

so do you think that all the consumers of trance cds are djs 14 year old e-tard?

in house scene also there are so many djs but there are alot of mix cds in the market..

do u think is nice for the scene and the producer-djs also?



I do think that a lot of people that buy trance tunes, want to be DJs and in general they want to own the track in its entirety.
Of course I am not saying that all trance consumers are DJs, but quite a lot are and mixed tunes will knock the sales back a bit...and in a scene this small where most releases strugle to pass the 2000 units mark, you can't afford to loose cash (unless the lable owners are already rich, have day jobs that support the label and do it for kicks...etc).

About the house (and breakbeat) scene you are correct, the mixed CDs are still going strong. But these scenes still have a contributing factor that is long forgotten in psy-trance, vynil/single sales. think about it, how do people get (unimixed) tunes in psy-trance? By purchasing albums and compilations. There's no (barely any) psy-trance singles available, whereas in the house/breaks scene most people buy records (although legal digital downloads are coming up strong). So you can argue that there is a greater "use" for a mixed house compilation CD, since tunes in their entireties are available to consumers on vynil/DD.
I am not saying that psy-trance mixed compilations are not good, I like them a lot, but there's barely any margin for error with most labels today + people want tunes in their entireties.
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