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How come mixed cds don`t sell in our scene??
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time traveller
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 18:21
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On 2004-03-13 06:15, Taku wrote:
I was wondering why mixed cds do not have the same exposure like the other scenes of electronic music. Is this because the fact that most of the consumers are djs who would rather have the cd not mixed. Also what are the average sales of mixed cds, are they well below the average sales of other unmixed trance cds? hope someone can clear this up. thanx
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the main reason is the majority of cd's albums already released have been touched up by pro tools in which u arent gettin a genuine dj mix .. as there is one recognised label that some of the those feat have admitted they used pro tools to get the mix they wanted ...... for me that fraudulent ...how can they advestise such a product when when it's supposed be be ????? when it aint ......
and its like when judas priest unleashed in the east .. there live album was also known as tweaked in the east in the studio for better sound quality ... instead of hearin the genuine live performance
and then u get dj's that puts there name to a mix they never done .....as there name is used to increase sales !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Maska
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 22:34
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On 2004-03-13 16:55, Dovla wrote:
because techno tracks are much more simpler and sound too boring when played by themselves...a techno dj can mix two techno tracks and play them at the same time for a long while and they will sound great together, while trance has much more sounds and playing two tracks at the same time would sound like random generated noise and wouldn't blend at all...trance has more involvement in the production phase and less in the playing phase while techno is vice versa
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I don't know. Have you heard Dino Psaras mix? Long , lovely, blended mixes.....It's called skill.....If a trance DJ has it, he can use it. If he doesn't he can't and shouldn't.....Random generated noise is made by the ones who don't know how to mix that way.
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 23:27
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Too many Dj's !!! They destroyed the Techno sceen, and they will destroy the trance seen too (maybe).
We need good artists no disk-skratchers. Who wanna be a dj, please go to HOUSE music sceen ! I really don't need somebody to help me feeling good. I guess music is enough for this. I hate Dj's that usualy cut the songs right before the best part must come. HEHE
Next week there will be a part in my city without dj's or special guests. Only peoples who put some songs and live it to the end, no mixing, no tempo changes.
I guess this is the best way to turn bact to the pure art.
In the past, the ancient african tribes don't need "Superstar dj's" to dance and get into trance. I guess we don't need them too.
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 23:44
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On 2004-03-17 23:27, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
Too many Dj's !!! They destroyed the Techno sceen, and they will destroy the trance seen too (maybe).
We need good artists no disk-skratchers. Who wanna be a dj, please go to HOUSE music sceen ! I really don't need somebody to help me feeling good. I guess music is enough for this. I hate Dj's that usualy cut the songs right before the best part must come. HEHE
Next week there will be a part in my city without dj's or special guests. Only peoples who put some songs and live it to the end, no mixing, no tempo changes.
I guess this is the best way to turn bact to the pure art.
In the past, the ancient african tribes don't need "Superstar dj's" to dance and get into trance. I guess we don't need them too.
Boom Shankar!
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pfffffffffffffffff as a DJ i think your right anciant Africa ROXXXX.
BUT as some one that goes to parties in the 21st century i think i would prefer to have a flow in the music with out any breaks and if possible with same style and some nice mixer work.
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Madpup
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 17:40
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On 2004-03-17 23:27, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
Too many Dj's !!! They destroyed the Techno sceen, and they will destroy the trance seen too (maybe).
We need good artists no disk-skratchers. Who wanna be a dj, please go to HOUSE music sceen ! I really don't need somebody to help me feeling good. I guess music is enough for this. I hate Dj's that usualy cut the songs right before the best part must come. HEHE
Next week there will be a part in my city without dj's or special guests. Only peoples who put some songs and live it to the end, no mixing, no tempo changes.
I guess this is the best way to turn bact to the pure art.
In the past, the ancient african tribes don't need "Superstar dj's" to dance and get into trance. I guess we don't need them too.
Boom Shankar!
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Thats gotta be one of the stupidest things i have read in a while.
Djs destroyed the techno scene? Would you like to elaborate?
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Maska
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 19:03
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I think DJ's made the techno scene.
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Pavel
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 20:44
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monkeydo
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 21:33
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On 2004-03-15 05:50, robomarket wrote:
is that mix stil available for download?
that 70 tracks in 70 minutes sounds very interesting.
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It isn't at the moment unfortunately but when I next have some space available on my server I'll repost it to this board. |
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Mar 19, 2004 01:06
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On 2004-03-17 23:27, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
Too many Dj's !!! They destroyed the Techno sceen, and they will destroy the trance seen too (maybe).
We need good artists no disk-skratchers. Who wanna be a dj, please go to HOUSE music sceen ! I really don't need somebody to help me feeling good. I guess music is enough for this. I hate Dj's that usualy cut the songs right before the best part must come. HEHE
Next week there will be a part in my city without dj's or special guests. Only peoples who put some songs and live it to the end, no mixing, no tempo changes!!!!!!!!!!!
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karnaf
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Posted : Mar 19, 2004 11:48
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BTW, a couple of days ago I was listening to Astral Projection - In The Mix (2CD, Phonokol, 2000)
Well, I'm happy that mixing skills have improved since then, that's all I can say 
I know for a fact that mixed CDs are the ones I get tired of first. I can listen to CDs a zillion times, but a mixed CD is something I'll get tired of faster.
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benjaminlee
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Posted : Apr 17, 2004 20:00
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Hello Everyone,
This is my first post, just kind of checking how everything goes here.
I just want to say that one mix disc that I listen to all the time - because it really gives me hope - is Eyal Yankovich's Retro: 10 Years of Israeli Trance Vol.1. It really does demonstrate a lot of technique, in all aspects.
I am looking to drive this thread into reviewing specific mixes that have been released, should I start a new topic?
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Tiny Giant
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Posted : Apr 17, 2004 21:23
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On 2004-03-17 23:27, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
Too many Dj's !!! They destroyed the Techno sceen, and they will destroy the trance seen too (maybe).
We need good artists no disk-skratchers. Who wanna be a dj, please go to HOUSE music sceen ! I really don't need somebody to help me feeling good. I guess music is enough for this. I hate Dj's that usualy cut the songs right before the best part must come. HEHE
Next week there will be a part in my city without dj's or special guests. Only peoples who put some songs and live it to the end, no mixing, no tempo changes.
I guess this is the best way to turn bact to the pure art.
In the past, the ancient african tribes don't need "Superstar dj's" to dance and get into trance. I guess we don't need them too.
Boom Shankar!
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i agree with you that there are too many dj´s but i don´t think that those ppl kill the scene.
i think every country has maybe 10 - 15 very good dj´s. the rest are only standard mixers.
here in germany i know many "dj´s", freaks downloading mp3´s and spin them badly.
when you talk to them they talk like they where the best dj of the world!!!
i hate when such persons want to tell me something about music and dj-ing!
sorry, but life is hard... to all of us!
BOOM
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grahf
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The only worthwhile mixed cds are ones that are MORE than the sum of the individual tracks. Perfect example (one of the very few I can think of) - Sasha and Digweed's Northern Exposure series. Not only is the mixing spot-on and the track selections some of the greatest collections of trance of any kind, ever, the cds manage to do what everybody talks about as the ideal but can never actually present: "telling a story."
Take Northern Exposure Vol 1 cd1, mixed by Sasha. The mix starts out in chillout territory and slowly morphs into trancey breaks, with The Orb, FSOL, Young American Primitive, and God Within. Then he drops Rabbit in the Moon - Out of Body Experience, an utterly amazing track, that seems to cap off the first half of the cd. He doesn't even try to maintain the same energy from that track, so instead builds up something entirely new, playing old school trance and progressive tracks. It caps off with Apollo 440 - Liquid Cool and Banco de Gaia's Last Train to Lhasa, bringing the journey full-circle.
Yup, that's my favorite DJ mix ever. Truly a work of art: each track is great in and of itself, but the way they are woven together is truly uniqe. Honestly I'm not sure if psytrance is "varied" enough to be able to create something of the same caliber. |
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Acidhive
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Posted : Apr 20, 2004 21:19
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Totally agree with Mike A here. I like to listen to a track in its entirety, with intro and outro.
Also, mixes usually suck because not all songs have the same BPM and the DJ has to pitch it up. That's why a good DJ chooses his/her tracks carefully so they have almost the same BPM.
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Madpup
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Posted : Apr 21, 2004 11:21
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On 2004-04-20 21:19, Acidhive wrote:
Totally agree with Mike A here. I like to listen to a track in its entirety, with intro and outro.
Also, mixes usually suck because not all songs have the same BPM and the DJ has to pitch it up. That's why a good DJ chooses his/her tracks carefully so they have almost the same BPM.
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Why do these mixes suck? |
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