Goodbye Chaos Unlimited!

On 2006-09-05 15:21, psytones wrote:
Quality production or quality psychedelic music? What are you guys discussing? Because you know what, Shiva Shidapu had BAD quality, but the FINEST QUALITY in psychedelic music. Erez used an old tracker. So shit man, people can make quality music with crappy computers and shitty speakers. Who cares about the production quality when the cosmic production is top notch. But I'm proberly off topic, as usual, so please have me excused

On 2006-09-05 15:51, neuromantik wrote:
No, you're stop ON TOPIC. People here seem to be confusing the two. Quality productions entails money as Datakult stated. Quality "music" cannot really be determined, but for me it entails imagination, powerful rhythms, good atmosphere, and how I interpret psychedelia in music which is subtle effects and holographic/3d sounds. But again, that is what I would call quality music. It is different for everyone.

I for one without a doubt prefer the musical side of rather than the production side. I mean, Metallica's "Master of Puppets" sounds like shit compared to the Black album, but it kicks its ass in so many ways. Now granted, Penta or Ocelot may not have the same quality of production as for instance Xerox or Wrecked Machines, but IMHO their music overflows with much more creativity and psychedelia and POWER.

On 2006-09-05 16:13, Dennis the menace wrote:
when someone starts to experiment with factory music we get threads like this one. When someone breaks the pattern the entire scene is falling apart...

cmon man...

On 2006-09-05 16:00, TrippyJohnny wrote:

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On 2006-09-05 15:51, neuromantik wrote: No, you're stop ON TOPIC. People here seem to be confusing the two. Quality productions entails money as Datakult stated. Quality "music" cannot really be determined, but for me it entails imagination, powerful rhythms, good atmosphere, and how I interpret psychedelia in music which is subtle effects and holographic/3d sounds. But again, that is what I would call quality music. It is different for everyone. I for one without a doubt prefer the musical side of rather than the production side. I mean, Metallica's "Master of Puppets" sounds like shit compared to the Black album, but it kicks its ass in so many ways. Now granted, Penta or Ocelot may not have the same quality of production as for instance Xerox or Wrecked Machines, but IMHO their music overflows with much more creativity and psychedelia and POWER.

Spot on!

The point is that there's way too much "factory music" these days. I see very little experimentation and individuality. And that does not only go for dark or full on but also for progressive trance / house and indeed psychill whih i personally find to be repeating the same eastern and indian "ethnic" cliche over and over again these days. This is not to point fingers at anyone BUT it would be so plesant to see a little more experimentation and less copy & paste. And most of all some more personality in the music.

My opinion of course.

I prefer a poorly recorded track over a polished boring track. Of course if you can combine a creative experimental track with a good production then you got a winner

On 2006-09-05 16:24, Dennis the menace wrote:
take a listen to our first release and tell me if u heard any similar trax like the savage scream track, or the atrocious berserker or even the crying orc track?
So Yes i would call it breaking a pattern

Feel free to download it...


Anyways we didnt start the label for breaking patterns i just wanted to share the music i like since there was so many complains about fullon was cut n paste and there was no innovation in fullon, well, the story is the same today

On 2006-09-05 16:36, TrippyJohnny wrote:

Now I got all the respect in the world for you not just following in the footsteps of what everybody else do these days. Then we can disagree about your use of icons.. That's another debate and a debate that's been debated... And you know my opinion anyway

I have indeed listened to some of your releases. I do not rememebr if I listened to that exact track though. I will for sure and give you feedback. But sorry i just do not hear anything in your releases that has not been done before in some way or another. Just as I also did not see anything new or groundbreking in IM (just an example) when they were praised as the "pioneers of psytrance". I am aware of how hard it is these days to do something new. But I just do not see your releases breaking any patterns. That does not mean it's not good music for those who like this style of music. It's just not something new. It's bene done before in varuious types of constellations. If you could do a time travel back to the old days you'll find lot of tracks with the same dark elements and indeed sounds (maybe less good quality though).
But as I said I resepct you for not going down the same path as so many does these days. But IMO it still got nothing to do with breaking patterns musically

On 2006-09-04 11:19, TrippyJohnny wrote: