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Goodbye Chaos Unlimited!

TrippyJohnny
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Posts :  445
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 11:39
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On 2006-09-06 11:29, ILSE wrote:
... in a civilized way !!!!!

to point on artists by name is the first act where he forgots, imo ...

cheers




If you by that say that DETOX mentioned artists he does not find good by name then you are wrong! I have just read through DETOX's post here and not one time does he mention any artists by name. He only mention those he think are quality. He does mention Skazi and Astrix a ta point but he does not say anything bad about them. So please show me exactly where he mentioned some artist by putting them down.

I also notcied that not once does he become personal in his posts.

It's so easy to attack and redicule those you do not agree with. Especially those who have an opinion and debate well.

PS.I know all of this is off-topic but just for once it would be great to see a debate without the insults and personal attacks.
          http://www.peopleagainstpeace.net/
keystone
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  140
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 11:43
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On 2006-09-06 00:16, DETOX wrote:
Sorry but i am part of this forum before you even had discovered internet mate.





Dude Grow up , this is'nt a pissing contest.... IMO lack of respect will get you no where.....
          Shut up and dance...
TrippyJohnny
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Posts :  445
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 11:44
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On 2006-09-06 11:43, keystone wrote:
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On 2006-09-06 00:16, DETOX wrote:
Sorry but i am part of this forum before you even had discovered internet mate.





Dude Grow up , this is'nt a pissing contest.... Lack of respect will get you no where.....




Why dont you look at why he wrote that instead of just jumping on him? Is it that hard to read one page back and see what started his reply?           http://www.peopleagainstpeace.net/
keystone
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  140
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 11:57
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On 2006-09-06 11:44, TrippyJohnny wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-09-06 11:43, keystone wrote:
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On 2006-09-06 00:16, DETOX wrote:
Sorry but i am part of this forum before you even had discovered internet mate.





Dude Grow up , this is'nt a pissing contest.... Lack of respect will get you no where.....




Why dont you look at why he wrote that instead of just jumping on him? Is it that hard to read one page back and see what started his reply?


I did man thanks... But still there is no need for the disrespect...           Shut up and dance...
TrippyJohnny
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Posts :  445
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:06
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On 2006-09-06 11:57, keystone wrote:
I did man thanks... But still there is no need for the disrespect...



So you only jump on him and have to point out how "direspectful" he is (even though he never attacked anyone here) and not the other "wolves" here who clearly are way more direspectful toward him with their personal insults?

Interesting to see

Some forum "pocket" psychology

Could it be that because you do not like what he have to say and because he debate passionated you start to feel resent toward him and instead of debating polite and post valid points according to your belives, you rather point fingers at him and join the mob "bullying" him?
          http://www.peopleagainstpeace.net/
vegetal
Vegetal/Peacespect

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Posts :  1055
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:19
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It's so easy to attack and redicule those you do not agree with. Especially those who have an opinion and debate well.




If i understand you correct, your point now is that Detox has a actually has a point?
Please point that one out for me, all i see is him pulling numbers out of his ass, even more artistic than David Copperfield, he just makes up theorys that benefits him, ohh did i mantion they lack facts. He is just trying to find a scapegoat for his lost income.
His way of blaming "dark" trance has the same approach as a KKK member who blames blacks and jews for the deterioration of "his" america.
you got another reflection?           Demand recognition for the Armenian genocide 1915
http://www.devilsmindrecords.org/
http://www.myspace.com/vegetalmusic
http://www.checkpoint-music.com/
keystone
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  10
Posts :  140
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:27
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On 2006-09-06 12:06, TrippyJohnny wrote:
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On 2006-09-06 11:57, keystone wrote:
I did man thanks... But still there is no need for the disrespect...



So you only jump on him and have to pooint out how "direspectful" he is (even though he never attacked anyone here) and not the other "wolves" here who clearly are way more direspectful toward him with their personal insults?

Interesting to see


DUDE Chill.... I mean Everyone!!! Nothing is gained by doing this, do you agree? This is the point I am trying to make!!! Maybe I should have quoted every single attack that was said... Pursuing this is even more pointless!! Sorry for PISSING in the wrong pool...           Shut up and dance...
TrippyJohnny
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Posts :  445
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:32
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On 2006-09-06 12:19, vegetal wrote:
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It's so easy to attack and redicule those you do not agree with. Especially those who have an opinion and debate well.




If i understand you correct, your point now is that Detox has a actually has a point?
Please point that one out for me, all i see is him pulling numbers out of his ass, even more artistic than David Copperfield, he just makes up theorys that benefits him, ohh did i mantion they lack facts. He is just trying to find a scapegoat for his lost income.
His way of blaming "dark" trance has the same approach as a KKK member who blames blacks and jews for the deterioration of "his" america.
you got another reflection?




Well you actually pointed out his "point" yourself.. He blame dark music (according to you). I don't see he does that. He does nto blame one specific genre! And then you can debate if he is right or wrong. Civilized!!! There's no need to become personal and bully him because he have an opinion that differ from your opinion.

And mate now you assume things you do not at all know anything about. You do not know him personally so how on earth could you ever know if he has a lost income etc?

And sorry but as long as your music and the symbols you use does not connect to anything religious as you yourself have pointed out countless times on this forum then I hardly see any resemblance to anti-semitism or KKK. To even suggest that his or my opinion about the use of your symbols (or music) could be equal to racism is indeed very insulting!!!!

Why is it so hard to stop the pointing fingers and insults and debate in a civilized way posting your points and believes instead of becoming insulting?           http://www.peopleagainstpeace.net/
vegetal
Vegetal/Peacespect

Started Topics :  19
Posts :  1055
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:33
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Could it be that because you do not like what he have to say and because he debate passionated



mmm please let me laugh and gag at the same time.
All he does is being a angry person towards people who donīt make/promote/release the kind of music he likes.
Whenever there is a bad incident in this scene conservative trancers faces towards "dark" and saying that its because of this music.
Its like politicians blaiming the Columbine shootings on Marilyn Manson


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you rather point fingers at him and join the mob "bullying" him?


That mob?? Just becuase the facts at this point, and has been for 11 pages now. Clearly shows that the majority of people attending this thread donīt agree with detox, does that make it a mob??
Donīt think so           Demand recognition for the Armenian genocide 1915
http://www.devilsmindrecords.org/
http://www.myspace.com/vegetalmusic
http://www.checkpoint-music.com/
TrippyJohnny
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Posts :  445
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:35
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On 2006-09-06 12:27, keystone wrote:
DUDE Chill.



I am very chilled

I just find it very wrong and actually the dead of debates here that so many people here start "wolfpacks" and attack and insult people because they do not like their opinions. It remind me of a School Yard "bully squad"!


Anyway we are way off-topic. I hope the debate can continue without the attacks and insults? Aparently it's an important debate. Otherwise there would not be so many participants.          http://www.peopleagainstpeace.net/
TrippyJohnny
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Posts :  445
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:37
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On 2006-09-06 12:33, vegetal wrote:
That mob?? Just becuase the facts at this point, and has been for 11 pages now. Clearly shows that the majority of people attending this thread donīt agree with detox, does that make it a mob??
Donīt think so




I give up. You clearly don't even want to understand the point. So please continue attacking and insult DETOX and please do not look yourself in the mirror
          http://www.peopleagainstpeace.net/
keystone
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  10
Posts :  140
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:39
Have fun with the debate guys....Better thing to do..LIKE MAKE KICK ASS DARK TRANCE!!!MUaaahahaaaahhaaahahha!!!!!!!           Shut up and dance...
vegetal
Vegetal/Peacespect

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Posts :  1055
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:46
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Well you actually pointed out his "point" yourself.. He blame dark music (according to you). I don't see he does that. He does nto blame one specific genre! And then you can debate if he is right or wrong. Civilized!!!



No its not according to me, Does it really have to be in plain language here so you can see it?
Its dark we are talking about here, this quote speaks for itself.

Quote:
Keep producing 160bpm 'music',establishing joke labels to release yours and your friends music and trying to get some bookings through them and signing killarrrrgh artists for free and flooding the market with crappy releases.

Fucking idiots...



Does it sound like heīs talking about fullon, progressive to you ? .

Clearly you donīt want to see the picture here, so ill rest my case here thank you!           Demand recognition for the Armenian genocide 1915
http://www.devilsmindrecords.org/
http://www.myspace.com/vegetalmusic
http://www.checkpoint-music.com/
Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton

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Posts :  2899
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:52
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On 2006-09-06 12:32, TrippyJohnny wrote:
He blame dark music (according to you). I don't see he does that. He does nto blame one specific genre!




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On 2006-08-25 17:36, DETOX wrote:
Good work kids you finnally achieved to destroy this once wonderful scene.

Keep producing 160bpm 'music',establishing joke labels to release yours and your friends music and trying to get some bookings through them and signing killarrrrgh artists for free and flooding the market with crappy releases.

Fucking idiots...





So where are we?
TrippyJohnny
Inactive User

Started Topics :  2
Posts :  445
Posted : Sep 6, 2006 12:52
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On 2006-09-06 12:46, vegetal wrote:
Quote:

Well you actually pointed out his "point" yourself.. He blame dark music (according to you). I don't see he does that. He does nto blame one specific genre! And then you can debate if he is right or wrong. Civilized!!!



No its not according to me, Does it really have to be in plain language here so you can see it?
Its dark we are talking about here, this quote speaks for itself.

Quote:
Keep producing 160bpm 'music',establishing joke labels to release yours and your friends music and trying to get some bookings through them and signing killarrrrgh artists for free and flooding the market with crappy releases.

Fucking idiots...



Does it sound like heīs talking about fullon, progressive to you ? .

Clearly you donīt want to see the picture here, so ill rest my case here thank you!




So now "dark" music has the patent on 160+ bpm? I have heard plenty of other music incl. Neo Full on thats very fast too.

And even if he as you say "only" blame dark then so what? It's his freaking right. And it's your right to think he's wrong and to debate WHY you think he's wrong. NOT to redicule, insult and attack him!!!!

The only ones that dont get the picture is you and a few other here. I do NOT say he is right even though i do get his point to some extend simply because there are artisst that should never have been released. It's a simple fact. I continue tio say you are wrong for bullying him because he have his opinion!

He should of course not write "idiots" but I do understand how he can get a bit tired of the insults that was thrown at him prior to his use of "idiots"           http://www.peopleagainstpeace.net/
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