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maux
Mauxuam

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Posted : Apr 1, 2008 15:31:15
this forums become BORING.
and censorship bullshits....to sell more banners.
I am truly disgusted too...mr shahar.

good day to you too

          "There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain will never improve, and that's here." Aldus
Trip-
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Posted : Apr 1, 2008 16:37
I'm sorry if that's how you feel...
Is there a chance to change your mind?           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
NNDMT-AUS


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Posted : Apr 1, 2008 16:57
Quote:

On 2008-04-01 15:31:15, maux wrote:
this forums become BORING.
and censorship bullshits....to sell more banners.
I am truly disgusted too...mr shahar.

good day to you too





Have to agree with you there mr maux..
forums are boring mad places !
I just had a rant yesterday just to get everybodys attention about negativity...
but that's just my opinion.. right ?
I only wrote about Entheogenic because I just bought their new album for 10+1.50 for P&P, which IMO is a lot of $$$ for a CD !!! just for someone to come along & trash it in 2 sentences... Ok, so i was a bit hursh

But 10... I was doing what any hot-blooded Aussie would do ! protect his measly investment

I've been listening to psychedelic music for over 30 years from the greats like Syd Barret & Jimi Hendrix to Mozart to that little tribe in papa new guinea - & then the 80's hit us [WTF] but it was a transitional period & then electronic music began to take off... Many Many great artists began to emerge.. my 2 main favs being FSOL & The Orb ! but really there are far too many good artists to mention... & today I think there is a lot of talent out there.. young & old
OK so Master M has a point about it all being brainwashed - but we're all deluded & brainwashed !!! that's why we turned to psychedelics.. right ? just to remind us that we're actually infact tripping our tits off all the blinking time !!! & that everything is psychedelic - it's just how you perceive it ? IMO

But who cares what I think !!! i'm just another alter ego flexing his invisible horns..
Maybe I'm just jealous because i wish was a musician [every mans dream @some point in his life] i just don't have the time or know how & can't even sing in tune !
But this won't stop me being passionate about the music I love - we all know when something is good or bad... we all just react differently..

& maybe I'm just another nutter who can't see his own arse to his beak.. hehe [again sorry to Master M.. but I do find that quite an amusing visual sentence]

down the rabbit hole I go...

The sun has come out where i am for the first time in weeks !!! so..........

Good'ay to yoa'll - Peace



'Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.'' or more pertinently: ''Let not your mind run on what you lack, as much as on what you have already.''









shahar
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Posted : Apr 1, 2008 17:01
Censorship? What did I censor maux?

How does that help sell more banners? If I would think that way I would think the opposite, more mess and controversy, more heated discussions, more hits, more exposure, better for banners! no?

Why is it so hard to accept that I might do things not for money? Even after I (and others, of couhse) have been running this place and paying for it from our pocket for more then a decade. I truly wonder.
Again you're not being fare, I'm afraid.

I would love it if you check with yourself if this response of yours comes from a true place or from this thing in you that has to rebel against everything that is "system"/majority/"authority"/etc.
And don't press that quote button so fast- please think first.


Also I would like to know if you don't think that this discussion about Entheogenic's music (or lack of it) will be just as interesting (not boring) without curses, drug abuse allegations, and/or violence? Because if the answer is no, then you better quit here- because we're not interested in having a forum based on these. If the answer is yes, then why not do it like that? You're invited to start the conversation from fresh- I promise to contribute.
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"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley

andrew interchill
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 1, 2008 22:34
i think that when some people witness so much uncritical praise of albums or artists or labels, it brings out a natural desire to restore balance.

some people love their psy cheese... i wouldn't take that away from them - i just choose not to listen to it. sugary sweetness should be kept in the kitchen and out of the studio.

running a label i get a lot of feedback on our releases - and it never ceases to amaze me how varied it is... some people express great love for what seem to me to be the weakest tunes.

there is rarely any consensus. I find that very re-assuring.

consensus, group think or uncritical praise all bother me greatly. even if we were benefitting from receiving it.

we all have an equal right to express our views, and none of us can or should claim any enhanced authority for them. anyone so doing is just flexing their ego.

i think that Mau and Moreno and Justin's critiques do come from a true place. to the "system/majority/authority" list that you wrote Shahar I would also humbly offer "blind consensus" and "uncritical adulation". I know where i stand.

why lock the thread ? why not let people fall or stand under the weight of their words... unless this is to be just a happy nice place where we all agree most of the time.

as an artist or label, it works best if you ignore the praise as well as the criticism... otherwise you descend into a spiral of narcissism, pride or self doubt

at the end of it all - music is the best form of communication

gaspard
Yab Yum

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 00:03
Very nicely said Mr Interchill!

          Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Terry Pratchett
vladza
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 00:31
Hey, people working trully hard to make some of us happier at
least for while. It's the thin line between Judging and Critiquing.
For somebody, B.Spears tunes are trully beatuful.
Let it be, people.
andrew interchill
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 06:31
truth is subjectivity... said kierkegaard

relativism just does not cut it...

Lauge
Lauge

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 08:16
andrew you are so right!           www.myspace.com/orbitallauge
www.myspace.com/babalauge
www.myspace.com/babagnohm
shahar
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 12:01
Andrew, what does all you write has to do with why I locked that thread? Did you even read what I wrote? Seriously mate!

I locked that thread, and well explained that there and here, not because of what was said but because of the way it was said.

Why can't that discussion be had with respect to the others involved? Respect to others is just as important to me as independent thinking and open mindedness. Actually even more. I believe it is lack of respect to others that is in the base of our society lacking in both (and in many other important virtues).


Ah? Tell me that you fucking miserable ungratefull Canadian new age twat!!! You and that ass licking cock sucking miserable Italian no-good-little-bastard who's done so much acid he can't even say good morning to a cat without starting a fight? Fuck you all of you- you can take your complains and shove them up your arse and please don't use any lubricants!!!!!



(that last paragraph was me making a point in a statirical way, so don't get all excited all, please. It has no basis in reality, and the truth is that I love Andrew, he's a super cool guy, and Maux is totally cool too and often says smart things when he's not blaming me for trying to make money with this forum).
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi

"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley

shahar
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 12:26
And again, I invite you all to start a proper discussion about Entheogenic's music. I'll be happy to contribute. I don't want to start it myself, as I haven't heard their last album (and probably won't, as Golden Cap made it clear enough to me that they are going nowhere that is intresting or good to my ears).
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi

"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley

maux
Mauxuam

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 17:05
what a nice april fool day was yesterday.
you missed that shahar...I am sorry you didn't have fun and you didn't let us have fun.

you speak like the Dalai Lama but you act like Mr Murdock....nice conbination.

I suggest you that next time that you need to show us your muscles in the morning...do some push ups...and don't lock topics where ppl have their own arguments with the words they like most....where you failed to contribute in any intelligent way.

if you can't take it in YOUR forum (this is not a community anymore)...then we will leave you alone with your mob of amen and ohanna.

          "There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain will never improve, and that's here." Aldus
corta mocas

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 17:32
screw me.... im a lttle bastard....im portuguese so im a nugget i am tired of entheogenic and its my fault how blind can i be im so stupid that i dont even deserve to be in the forum.....i am racist,sexist and so on and i just think people like me make these scene worst


sorry did i desrespect anyone?aahahahahahahahahaha

cheers m . s . mm g ai t
Justin Chaos
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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 17:49
Erm...you think that's anywhere near amusing corta mocas ???
          My fake plants died, because I did not pretend to water them.
shahar
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 18:25
Quote:

On 2008-04-02 17:05, maux wrote:
what a nice april fool day was yesterday.
you missed that shahar...I am sorry you didn't have fun and you didn't let us have fun.

you speak like the Dalai Lama but you act like Mr Murdock....nice conbination.

I suggest you that next time that you need to show us your muscles in the morning...do some push ups...and don't lock topics where ppl have their own arguments with the words they like most....where you failed to contribute in any intelligent way.

if you can't take it in YOUR forum (this is not a community anymore)...then we will leave you alone with your mob of amen and ohanna.



Above you in purple there are guidelines. Please read them.

I'm still intrested to hear your explanation why a critical conversation without disrespecting each other is not possible. Why isn't it better?

I indeed totally missed the connection to April 1st. Enlighten me, please.
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi

"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley

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