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Stash
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 20:33

i wanna know if DRUG SAMPLES in tracks are bad......

i mean are these samples absolutely necessary to make a track 'KILLER' or they are just put in a track for the heck of it?????

and dont such samples encourage/increase drug usage in our scene.....i mean out of 10 say bout 4-5 tracks at least will have some drug sample... donot artists have any other better way of getting their tracks noticed other then by shoving in a drug sample????

i agree some of them are required in some tracks to get/generate a desired effect but have artists overused drug samples lately??

views wud be appreciated

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Acidhive
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 20:39
I think psytrance could easily do without drugsamples. You can also sample nice bits from movies, which is done a lot lately, which can create a perfect atmosphere, which is not about drugs at all. I agree that the drugsamples only encourage people to think psytrance is all about drugtaking, which most people think anyway... Anyone who has read my posts lately will find that when I think an artist just overdoes it with the drug references, I bitch about it. (Check my Crunchy Punch review for reference)
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Insomniac
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 20:45

I totally agree with acidhive, everybody relates psytrance with drugs and one of the reasons is the drg samples.
A track could be killer with any good sample movies, real recordings....

Peace..
PKS
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 20:52
A lot of drug samples results in more music sold. The artists know that, and that's why they put in those silly drug samples. I though it was pretty funny in the beginning too, but now I'm just getting tired of it.

Another question is why so many people buy it because of stupid drug samples.... Like the 1200 Mics album isn't very good quality music, but it has all those "funny" drug samples....

Like people are thinking: hahaha, they say DMT, hahaha. Let's buy it!

Is peoples humour really that low?


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Basilisk
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 21:45
IMHO, stop all these samples. They always piss me off. Maybe because I'm not much of a drug user and I don't want to hear about something 51 times as addictive as cocaine in 5 different song? I dunno. I would have bought the last Space Buddha album if it weren't for that crap...
full_on
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 21:48
I love samples, but usually I don't like drug samples.

However, I think there are some "intelligent or interesting" drug related samples, for example:

Vibe Tribe - Ecstasy of Revolutions

"Unfortunatly the real psychedelic trips are very often one way."

And this one I heard at a party:

"This is not a good town for psychedelic drugs,
Extremely menacing vibrations from all around us...
We finally met the room, but the key wouldn't open the door..."

Well, in the end it's all about taste...
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Acidhive
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 22:03
Tracks can be killer without drugsamples, or without any samples at all. Listen to Blue Planet Corporation's fantastic track: Crystal. That one says it all without one single sample! I'm getting tired of stupid drugsamples. Albums like the 1200 Mics one just promote druguse in my opinion and for that single reason alone, I would not buy it.           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

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Tris
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Posted : Apr 16, 2004 01:38
I like 'drug sample'. As long as it's psychedelic ones ;-)
If I'm not on that nicely evocative and make me feel a little bit like I'm (with no harm at all by the way...) and if I happen to be on, t'is good fun. Especially if the music rythm and atmosphere match with the drug-induced feelings. Wooooohhhhhhh....
And 1200mics works quite good, I believe.

Still, not all drug samples are good ones to me. For exemple,I don't like LSDance (Psysex) that much because of the LasVegas sample. It's quite scarry, not nice (forcing someone to do LSD is not nice at all !) and can make people bad trip...
Reno_k


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Posted : Apr 16, 2004 02:22
It sells and that 4 sure.

If commercial aspects should b involved while

creating music is another question.

Toxic MaN
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Posted : Apr 16, 2004 07:17
Sup bro how you doing

In my opinion drug samples are just a like other good samples that there are. Movies, Cartoons, video games etc.. are some of the places where artists get there samples.

I agree that drug samples may encourage the usage of may give the idea that trance is only for drug adicts.

In my opionion drug consumption is the desition of each and one of us and i dont believe that a drug sample will make me smoke, or use some other kind of drug.

See ya guys
zooter
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Posted : Apr 16, 2004 07:23
1200 mics bashing is something i'm not willing to accept? What bout their other album "Heroes of the Imagination"? Maybe crap, but brilliant concept and samples!
nobody_3
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Posted : Apr 16, 2004 07:25
Maybe you dont get affected by the drug samples but it's 100% sure that there's kids out there that think that it's super cool to try drugs because their favourite artists/labels say it's cool to do drugs as seen in numerous releases that promote drugs without any consideration about consequences and responsibility toward especially naive and innocent kids..
Another point is that the majority of people outside the scene think we're a bunch of junkies. How come? Some of the reason is because of the media's coverage of the scene but a very big reason is because we promote drugs as something cool and nessesary to "understand" the music at every given change we get... Not so clever
Toxic MaN
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Posted : Apr 16, 2004 07:47
Quote:

On 2004-04-16 07:25, Elysium Project wrote:
Maybe you dont get affected by the drug samples but it's 100% sure that there's kids out there that think that it's super cool to try drugs because their favourite artists/labels say it's cool to do drugs as seen in numerous releases that promote drugs without any consideration about consequences and responsibility toward especially naive and innocent kids..
Another point is that the majority of people outside the scene think we're a bunch of junkies. How come? Some of the reason is because of the media's coverage of the scene but a very big reason is because we promote drugs as something cool and nessesary to "understand" the music at every given change we get... Not so clever



Yes dude, i definetley think you have a point here, i never thought about it this way.

Peace!
Acidhive
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Posted : Apr 16, 2004 11:24
Yeah Elysium... you're damn right!! Respect to you!!           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

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Rik
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Posted : Apr 16, 2004 11:44
You can find these samples in any music genre really, k's choice, the beatles, nirvana, marylin manson... they're everywhere. I don't consider this specific to psytrance at all. we're just crappy copy-cats           www.psytracks.com :: Brand new website for sharing your psytracks with the world. Get a free 250Mb Artist profile, Blog and events calender!
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