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psilocybe
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 10:00
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great, next artists will be telling us to love jesus, or stop shagging, or exercise more, or eat less...im preached to enough thru the media, i dont need that being filtered into the music i listen to as well...
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IndiAlien
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 11:29
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@ psilocybe
ur twisting the issue here......
who said anything about preaching?????
"...or stop shagging,..." ------ r u being serious?
comon...
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jabba
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 11:51
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hahahaha 
so it has come to this 
but seriously if somebody stops taking drugs , its not coz an artist in his sample said its not safe
when i was doing A and x and spppppppd i always heard these samples which said its usafe ,it gave me a buzz coz i didnt care and felt that i am on the edge coz thats my nature and felt cool so it gave me a high instead o preaching or teaching .......... quite contrary aint it
now am off it and still without drugs feel the high with mzk ,i know drug samples might promote for some but for others it doesnt tick a thing so all i wanna say is eachone has his or her own opinion so ppl do it coz they wanna do it but no way drug samples could push anyone to drug use
all o my mates who did WHATEVER kind o drugs did it for experience and to see the limits o brain so maybe i am thinking different from the trends you ppl are experiencing
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IndiAlien
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 12:40
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On 2004-04-22 11:51, jabba wrote:
hahahaha
so it has come to this
but seriously if somebody stops taking drugs , its not coz an artist in his sample said its not safe
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this is why i said 'I'm saying this out of personal experience.... ' read it again dude.... maybe u'll get it then.
being cool and on the edge is well and good.... but ur lying to urself if u think a 14 yr ol kid going to a psy party for the first time an' hearing drug samples will not have an adverse effect on him.... or a 45 yr ol journalist for that matter.
the sample itself will never 'push' anyone to drug use..... but it does put it top of mind = direct association with the environment.
I hope we can all agree that the highest common denominator for all people at a party is the love of the music, not the love of drugs...
Tho Waterjuice's idea has potential 
a sheet with each CD, some nicely rolled doobs in the case..... maybe then people will BUY music
boomboom !
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shahar
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 12:44
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Well, I really don't like drug samples for few reasons:
1. they're oversimplifying an issue which is not simple at all. "LSD does not fry your brain, it expands your mind" is very nice and all, but tell that to the people sitting drooling in mental health hospitals since the 60s. And there are quite a few of them, and quite a few others added at the last decade. LSD can very easily fry your brain. Now it's legitimate to think it can expand your mind as well, and it's legitimate to say it if you believe in it, but I believe a person should take more responsibility on something which can be very dangerous.
2. they're overused and abused and totally boring already.
3. they are hardly used (as many other samples I must say) with any meaning or power or as part of the writing of the track.
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shahar
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 12:45
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On 2004-04-22 10:00, psilocybe wrote:
great, next artists will be telling us to love jesus, or stop shagging, or exercise more, or eat less...im preached to enough thru the media, i dont need that being filtered into the music i listen to as well...
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What's wrong with music having a message?
Can music don't have a message?
It can be a literal one as well. You don't like the message, don't listen to the music.
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
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psilocybe
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 13:31
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its just so easy to blame someone else for ur own mistakes: that artist used a drug sample, its his fault im hooked, kinda crap... people always have a choice in any given situation, and just because i watched say kill bill, doesnt mean im gonna go on a samurai killing spree!! as far as messages and preaching are concerned, i dont like being told what to do and what not to do. is that what music is going to come to? i thought it was about creation, leave the rest to advertising...
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Psycho Forest
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 15:21
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Well I think it's preety obvious what's going on here. People who don't take drugs are against drug samples and everything that relates drugs to the scene, and the people who do take them have no problems with tracks being over-sampled by drugs. This goes back to the old discussion "are drugs part of the scene" which has been discussed to death.
The way I see it, the last thing we should care about is how we look to people outside the scene. If they like to think of us as a bunch of drug users (whether it's true or not) then so be it. Cause even without the drug issue they think that our music sounds like noise and and that dancing in the woods rather in a club is just plain stupid.
We create our own music and produce our own parties and we don't need any favours from the media, authorities or whatever.
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jabba
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 16:33
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indialien mate ....... i did not question the genuinity of your experience but on what i have experienced alongwith a lot o my mates so its 1:n'no. okai so take it light and full respect to you .
i speak out for my experience in the drug scene for a long time .... not just popping pills etc. but yes mzk kept me at bay with the pschological harms of the effects of the drugs coz i was always tripping on it "alongwith many "
take it light
But seriously who are you >>> the 14yr old or the 45 yr old journo ???? sorry am always cracking if not joints then jokes hahahahaha take it light again
P.S. i read your post again and it did not change 
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jabba
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 16:59
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On 2004-04-22 15:21, Psycho Forest wrote:
Well I think it's preety obvious what's going on here. People who don't take drugs are against drug samples and everything that relates drugs to the scene, and the people who do take them have no problems with tracks being over-sampled by drugs. This goes back to the old discussion "are drugs part of the scene" which has been discussed to death.
The way I see it, the last thing we should care about is how we look to people outside the scene. If they like to think of us as a bunch of drug users (whether it's true or not) then so be it. Cause even without the drug issue they think that our music sounds like noise and and that dancing in the woods rather in a club is just plain stupid.
We create our own music and produce our own parties and we don't need any favours from the media, authorities or whatever.
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ma friend for the first part i do not agree with you completely as mi being familiar with drugs but disliked too much use of drug samples but then its the artists work so leave it to that
Second para of yours is spot on nice ....
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Tris
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 18:03
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1/ I believe in my right to use my brain as I like. I don't believe states have to tell me what i must do about that.
It's their duty to inform people about the danger and, in some extend, should be their duty to control the quality (like they do with alcool, for exemple).
2/ Psychedelic drugs are part of our scene.
But, true, it's not only about drugs. Far from that.
It's better if outside people and autorities think it's not part of it but I would prefer them to understand it is...
3/ Most kids do drugs outside trance parties anyway.
And if they want to do it, I don't know better drugs than psychedelic ones and safest place to do it than trance parties...
It's to us to teach them to do it carefully.
So nevermind a drug sample from time to time.
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Janux
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 19:41
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psychadelic drugs may be part of the scene... which is why we dont need to hear about it in samples...
I dont like drug samples... specially direct ones....
also... one of the things that psychadelics show us, I think, is that words can be limiting and can get in the way of many things.... so then using words to talk about psychadelics seems like the worst way to try and communicate something
about them....
there is one funny sample that I can think of that was ok though.... in a Safi Connection track,
its 2 people talking, and they arnt very loud, and mixed into the track well... it goes:
"... dont take those man...
.... what?.... oh man... I already did"
then you hear the first guy laughing and the track gets more twisted. |
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IndiAlien
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 19:42
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LOL 
Light it is tacken...
I'm a 23 yr ol vaila journeying the Indian horizon.... dreaming that i'm awake
I like the way i'm talking so much.... tomorrow i have a date with Alice D..... (^_^)....... wish me luck
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Janux
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 20:43
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IndiAlien - what on earth are you rambling about?
atleast you're in a good mood....
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And the worst drug sample I can think of....
I dont know who the artist is... its on a compilation called Buckle-Up
the sample:
'what we drug people have that you dont."
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pearl
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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 21:57
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People use drugs for thousands of years already, nothing new about it. It is such a part of society today no need to talk about it that much. Who had not used them...
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