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Domestic Bass (please read before flaming)
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 3, 2007 00:46
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trilogy is good but i find the envelop slow ,not punchy enough.i would like the synths they sampled for it  the great things about these synth is the filters and envelop,not only the osc and you loose all that. |
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Human
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Posted : Mar 3, 2007 13:52
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Hmm.. Trilogy is sample-based, isn't it?
Do you still recommend to sample each note, as described on the last page?
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ess765
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Posted : Mar 3, 2007 19:37
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Thanks Ido for giving us some of your tips. It s always good to listen to other artists advices and personal tastes.
It s cristal clear that URS and UAD plugins stand for a total higher quality level, (although I respet and use a lot the Voxengos for their excelent cost/benefit relationship).
I d like to know some issues about practical use of the Uad plugins you mentioned. Obviously this question stands for anyone that use the UAD dsp cards and its plugins:
1 - Can you tell us how many cards do you have installed on your computer (some people say it would be worthy at least 2 or 3) ??
2 - Can you give us examples of how bad does the plugins eat the dsp cards processing power? How many plugins can you work together per card??
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Seppa
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Posted : Mar 4, 2007 01:30
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the amount of processing is not the same from plugin to plugin there is actually some uge differences. you'll find the detail answer to your questions on the uad website.
and yeah one card is not enough if you mix in real time and want to rely mostly on the uad plug for eq and comp.
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0hz
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 00:09
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hey ido,
can you advice on filter env and cutoff freq settings?
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illusions
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 06:44
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On 2007-03-06 00:09, 0hz wrote:
hey ido,
can you advice on filter env and cutoff freq settings?
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Might as well ask him for his presets then - filt env/cutoff setting depends completely on the kind of sound your after.
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AvS
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 13:21
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On 2007-03-03 13:52, Human wrote:
Hmm.. Trilogy is sample-based, isn't it?
Do you still recommend to sample each note, as described on the last page?
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Yeah its sample based so it makes no sense to sample each note of a Trilogy bass sound.
About Trilogy; Infected Mushroom used Trilogy for ALL the bass sounds on IM The Supervisor. (direct info from Erez). Thats why I dont want Trilogy. Sound boring IMO. |
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antagon
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 13:46
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About Trilogy; Infected Mushroom used Trilogy for ALL the bass sounds on IM The Supervisor. (direct info from Erez). Thats why I dont want Trilogy. Sound boring IMO.
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lol trilogy comes with a more then 3 gig library of samples, many ways not to sound like infected ;-)...
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 15:40
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On 2007-03-06 13:21, AvS wrote:
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On 2007-03-03 13:52, Human wrote:
Hmm.. Trilogy is sample-based, isn't it?
Do you still recommend to sample each note, as described on the last page?
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Yeah its sample based so it makes no sense to sample each note of a Trilogy bass sound.
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I'd disagree... the attacks of parts of the Trilogy sample set are different at diffent pitches and velocities, depending I think on the original source and due to the way Trilogy has been multisampled. Some sounds still benefit from being sampled and having their attacks edited for consitency, especially for basslines that use more than one note.
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makus
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 15:47
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On 2007-03-03 00:46, PoM wrote:
trilogy is good but i find the envelop slow, not punchy enough. i would like the synths they sampled for it the great things about these synth is the filters and envelop,not only the osc and you loose all that.
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absolutely agree. though if you make a track 120 bpm trilogy can do the job
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Ido (Domestic)
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Posted : Mar 7, 2007 12:13
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i think trilogy is maybe one of the synths i like the most ,
its very easy to get a good bass sound out of it since it has 1000's of oscilator samples
(which couldnt be boring and u dont have to sound like infcted if u dont want) ,
its 100% stable cuz its sample based, it is actually a sampler , if u are lazy sampling ,
u can just use trilogy , they did 1000's of sampling and already did the shit job like 3 or 4 octaves and finding the right note - for ya.
i think the envelopes are very good compare to any sampler , cuz usually other samplers cannot just take a plain oscilator (not seted yet) and make it a very good bass with the internal envelopes and trilogy does.
another nice thing in it is the - start point knob on the bottom right that lets u choose where to start the sample from , its very good of u dont like the attack of the sound or trying to get a different phaze for the bass ,
it actually gives u the feeling that u can make so many types of sound of bass from each sample cuz the phaze and the sound of the bass is just changing every time u move this knob a bit so its nice.
also trilogy has really killer samples , mostly better any vst synth u could find cuz most of the samples are real
analogs and very phat ones .
about the uad , i've got just one card , i would want to get another one cuz sometimes dsp is just finished but then i just save channel settings and reset channel or export to save power , so it is possible to work with 1 card.
i donno exactly how much takes each plug (u can see it in uad site)
but generally i find myself opening about 10 - 12 plugs ,
and i mostly use the pultec, the black 1176 and sometimes the cambridge ,
for my opinion , uad is NOT a must , i find myself using Urs,Tritone digital,Voxengo plugs much much more
plugs i like alot in the UAD are only the Pultec and the 1176 and i almost dont use the other plugs.
i think Tritone digital has the best sounding vst plugs till today , their plugs are Maxmsp based and they sound
just amazing , better than the uad for my opinion, plugs i use are Hydratone eq , Colortone(this is absolutly magic) and Valvetone.
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Alex - Aural Invasion
Aural Invasion
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Posted : Mar 8, 2007 11:16
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Ido, those Tritone Digital looks really interesting, i better try the demos!
What about the Neve Comps, and the Faichild 670, don't you like them? i just got the fairchild, and still checking it out, but so far i think it sounds really nice. The neve comps i didn't buy yet, but i plan because i heard they should be really really nice! Whats your opinion on those?
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Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Mar 8, 2007 14:38
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Alex- NEVE for sure ! |
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illusions
Erebus
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Posted : Mar 8, 2007 15:26
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Ido - thanks for your tips.
You mentioned earlier on in this thread not to forget that the mastering on your tracks makes a big difference, and it would be hard to try and get a similiar kind of sound if we're not taking the mastering process into consideration.
Colin had posted some pre and post mastering clips in another thread, do you think we could get something similiar from you ? Really would help a lot as a reference.
Thanks a lot
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Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Mar 8, 2007 16:30
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On 2007-03-08 14:38, Adrenal Mode wrote:
Alex- NEVE for sure !
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