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Domestic Bass (please read before flaming)

Safa
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Posted : Feb 26, 2007 20:29
hey guys i use esm for my basses. but here i am reading all this sampling bass notes stuff, but i have no idea how to do it.
can u guys help me out from the begining.?
thanks
Brain Hacked
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 26, 2007 23:47
I samples ESM, what i did is that i sampled octaves(from 0 to 3) i recorded 6 takes from each note and then took the ones with the best or most stable envelope and loaded each sample in halion or kontakt
Seppa


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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 00:00
uhm...
I don't see the need to sample all notes over 3 octaves. make your bass as normal and sample just the note you need. unless your making a set to reuse in the future.

I'm not an expert on the subject since i just asked previously about it but that's what makes more sense to me.
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 00:36
Sampling more notes than you maybe need at the time means you can be more flexible with the notes you use in your bassline later on without having to go back to the original instrument.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 00:56
the problem with the esm it s you can t know if the patch is really good until you try it with the sample, good luck when you have to do it all again ,maybe using a good sampler with one long note is enought for one octave?not sure if it ll add bad artifacts or try a synth like rapture and import just one cycle of the waveform.
Brain Hacked
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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 01:11
Colins right, thats why i sample more notes that the ones i may need., and first i make a patch of it in logic, make some bass and kick if i liek how it sounds then save the bass patch, sample it and load the samples in a sampler
Seppa


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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 15:23
I see... What can you tell me about albino is it stable enough; cause i didn''t have the will yet to sample my bass, its something i'm planning to do at the mix stage.
tks
faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 16:07
Quote:

On 2007-02-25 23:26, Sound Surgeon wrote:
Sampling for bass is great. Mostly its not used as a melody and we need bassline to be stable and 100% identical in each pattern.
Thats why its better to sample it. Howeve it depends on what you want to create.

Thanks Ido!



im not sure its always better to sample... sure, it provides stability, but takes away some feel and dynamic vibe. nothing wrong with some slight slight variation.           
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AvS


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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 16:47
Yeah all this "sample-because-every-note-has-to-sound exactly-the-same" i getting out of hand.
I've become so tired of all this new psytrace that just sounds so lifeless and robot-ish.
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 17:14
on related topic
i had great fun today with korg ms2000
some funky chunky basslines , and guess what? no retrigger
i guess its ALL depend on what each one is after.. musical vision may be... as long as however you want it you get it           www.sattelbattle.com
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Sound Surgeon
Crater / Mish-kah

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 17:41
Quote:

On 2007-02-26 09:18, 0hz wrote:
hey ido,
what you think about z3ta for bass?



Awesome
80% of my basses come from it
Sound Surgeon
Crater / Mish-kah

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 18:32
Quote:

On 2007-02-27 16:07, faxinadu wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-02-25 23:26, Sound Surgeon wrote:
Sampling for bass is great. Mostly its not used as a melody and we need bassline to be stable and 100% identical in each pattern.
Thats why its better to sample it. Howeve it depends on what you want to create.

Thanks Ido!



im not sure its always better to sample... sure, it provides stability, but takes away some feel and dynamic vibe. nothing wrong with some slight slight variation.




Thats why I added that it depends on what you want to create.
Alex - Aural Invasion
Aural Invasion

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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 12:17
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 19:43, -aeon- wrote:
Quote:
listen first of all i wanna tell u that no matter how much u compare yr work to others it will never be the same
u will never get the same result unless u know exactly how it was processed and the chain ,
which links me to the point that - u will ALLWAYS feel like 'damn , this shit is much better than mine' and than feel like shit (unless u have 1 ton of ego and u really like what u do:)



Domestic, it's been a pleasure reading all your contributions to this thread, but i think this is probably the most important sentence of all





I couldn agree more. Thx for sharing your wisdom!           myspace.com/auralinvasion
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Erez_b


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Posted : Mar 2, 2007 23:26
from all of this great stuff only one thing bothered me ! how come you ido or no one mentioned Trilogy , tbh i was damn sure that you Ido and most of the hommega artists use it on regular base (double meaning )
This machine is awsome and to tell you something whenever i fell in love with a bass (such as your bass @ Came as quite a shock or Black & White 's bass Sub6 etc ... )and tried to create the same bass just for the experience i found myself creating almost exact bass with trilogy with tracks that now i found out that their bassline was made with another machine.
anyway the point is I really really really really really really recommend trilogy.

What do you people have to say ?
fitzoyo
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  27
Posted : Mar 3, 2007 00:09
I think Ido mentioned trilogy is one of the synths he mainly uses for bass in his first post. I do agree though it is an awesome vst.
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