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Domestic Bass (please read before flaming)
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mquirk1
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Posted : Mar 25, 2009 14:19
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Much respect to Ido for posting so much in this thread and helping people out, don't see the real pros doing it that much. Now how on earth did you make that bass in shnorkel!!  |
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Suloo
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Posted : Mar 25, 2009 14:55
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On 2006-11-22 13:42, Ido (Domestic) wrote:
synths i use for basses mostly are esm , es1 , cronox 2(not 3)and trilogy.
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hey..could anyone please explain why cronox 2 is rated to be better than 3? many people do it, but i don`t understand this..haven`t tried version two..but am actualy satisfied with 3..just would like to know..
thanks
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 25, 2009 18:27
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On 2009-03-25 14:55, Zork wrote:
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On 2006-11-22 13:42, Ido (Domestic) wrote:
synths i use for basses mostly are esm , es1 , cronox 2(not 3)and trilogy.
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hey..could anyone please explain why cronox 2 is rated to be better than 3? many people do it, but i don`t understand this..haven`t tried version two..but am actualy satisfied with 3..just would like to know..
thanks
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i heard that also, what makes cronox 3 better then mate?
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Suloo
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Posted : Mar 25, 2009 18:44
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Don`t know..i have never tried the cronox 2..but since its a simple version update..i guess the sound library will be the same almost..and i don`t think they changed the way the osc sound or the filters, i don`t see the point that an update makes it worse..
but don`t know..i`m pretty satisfied actualy..
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hoooray
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 16:47
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can someone plz upload the before and after Mastering files??
the link is no longer working ...
Big thanks to Ido !
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Seppa
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 17:42
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the link is still working
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On 2009-03-24 23:09, Seppa wrote:
There you go !
http://www.adrive.com/public/90a3e04063bd8168fc759934e2a03dae24bef8db0e5051809625aefc838f752b.html
I can't help but to be skeptical. I don't think this is going to help you... both version are good there is an obvious improvement on the master versions but noneless the bass is always there.
Anyhow keep working on it, follow ido's advice these are excellent. That's really the only serious bass thread here.
I learned a lot from it the rest was from hardwork, and patience.
cheers
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hoooray
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 18:57
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boom thanks |
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FreakBugS
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Posted : May 5, 2009 05:38
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hey guys
I´ve been playing around with kick and bass and Im stucked with the subbass...
a sample just to make the things clear..
www.kehl.ind.br/sample.mp3
I reached this bassline... As u can hear, it has the main "skills" like note velocities, compressor, EQ, etc, kick in the same note (done at soundforge)... buuuutt... if u hear it in a system that has a good subwoofer, u wont feel that subbass that has in pros basslines..
Like E-Jekt said to my friend "ask mcdonnalds owner if he tells u their secret"
Yeah, Im looking for the skill, how to reach that, not the secret itself...
Im trying to do like Ido said in this topic, a sine wave in group with my bassline, but every tip that I tried... it destroyed my bass...
Tried mda subsynth, no lucky...
Any ideias?
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FreakBugS
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Posted : May 5, 2009 05:42
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I forgot to mention, Im using AudioRealism BassLine 2 |
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roigt0r
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Posted : May 5, 2009 05:49
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You can obviously layer with a sine for subbass but I've read many many times that people will just fake the sub bass power with something like Waves RBass. Works for me. |
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : May 5, 2009 12:40
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On 2009-05-05 05:38, FreakBugS wrote:
hey guys
I´ve been playing around with kick and bass and Im stucked with the subbass...
a sample just to make the things clear..
http://www.kehl.ind.br/sample.mp3
I reached this bassline... As u can hear, it has the main "skills" like note velocities, compressor, EQ, etc, kick in the same note (done at soundforge)... buuuutt... if u hear it in a system that has a good subwoofer, u wont feel that subbass that has in pros basslines..
Like E-Jekt said to my friend "ask mcdonnalds owner if he tells u their secret"
Yeah, Im looking for the skill, how to reach that, not the secret itself...
Im trying to do like Ido said in this topic, a sine wave in group with my bassline, but every tip that I tried... it destroyed my bass...
Tried mda subsynth, no lucky...
Any ideias?
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Read carefully Oxydelic's post:
http://forum.isratrance.com/layer-kick-with-subkick-for-a-better-sound/ |
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FreakBugS
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Posted : May 5, 2009 21:42
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Thanks nomad..
I saw that... lets see if I understand the method (I think is the same that I was trying): create another channel with a subbass synth (but witch one?), low pass only lower freqs, sidechain with the kick...
Something like this?
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D-Alien
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Posted : May 5, 2009 23:02
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nop..
there is absolutely No need of creating another additional channel... this will just duplicate all of your work to the other channel... fx chain, midi, breaks.. lol.. too much
just Split your bass channel into 2 different sends. if you work in cubase you will have to follow the tutorials here of how to make stereo sidechain in cubase or just read the electrypnose tutorial in his page  , so just highpass this send (can be with eq, or with quadrafuzz or whatever you like), it is the send where the kik "ghost" will trigger the sidechain for the low conflicting frequencies.
on the other send of your bass just lowpass it to your taste (it can be from 300hz, but also it can be 1000hz or more, it depends from the bas itself) and voila! one bass channel splited into 2, without any need of duplicating channels, midis, etc...
hope you got it
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Elad
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Posted : May 6, 2009 03:34
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On 2009-03-25 14:19, mquirk1 wrote:
Much respect to Ido for posting so much in this thread and helping people out, don't see the real pros doing it that much. Now how on earth did you make that bass in shnorkel!!
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+10000
www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/ |
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FreakBugS
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Posted : May 6, 2009 05:28
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On 2009-05-05 23:02, D-Alien wrote:
nop..
there is absolutely No need of creating another additional channel... this will just duplicate all of your work to the other channel... fx chain, midi, breaks.. lol.. too much
just Split your bass channel into 2 different sends. if you work in cubase you will have to follow the tutorials here of how to make stereo sidechain in cubase or just read the electrypnose tutorial in his page , so just highpass this send (can be with eq, or with quadrafuzz or whatever you like), it is the send where the kik "ghost" will trigger the sidechain for the low conflicting frequencies.
on the other send of your bass just lowpass it to your taste (it can be from 300hz, but also it can be 1000hz or more, it depends from the bas itself) and voila! one bass channel splited into 2, without any need of duplicating channels, midis, etc...
hope you got it
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thanks d-alien for ur patient...
I work with ableton...
But will try something like that..
Another question is.. If I split my bass into 2 sends... ok, I will have one with subbass and another with higher freqs... but, the subbass will come from my original ABL2 synth, wich I dont reach real good subbass.... is that right?
Thanks guys for the infos here, u have my respect... (and everyone that is learning with u) |
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