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Does this mean PSY can never get a popular appeal?
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 09:31
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Written by a Norwegian guy by the name 'LostInTime' on the Infected Mushroom forum.
The first time I listened to psytrance in general was "Infected Mushroom - Release me" Among all the other trance songs, this one was not monotonuous, so I noticed it, but did not like it at that point. But the tune stuck in my mind, and later on I was searching all my songs to find the tune again. I wanted more so I downloaded more infected songs, bust a move and psycho etc, but I though the songs were really wicked and I only heard random sounds. But there was a quality to the sound, so I forced myself to listen to the music again and again... Now the infected music sounds completely natural. The problem is, other music sounds wierd, so simple and repetetive, slow and boring. The thing about psy is that you have to listen to it some times before you can enjoy it, and you cannot play a song to somebody and expect them to like it, because its so complex it requires a couple of listens to like it in the first place.
Does this mean psy can never get a popular/commercial appeal?
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 10:03
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I dont want psytrance to get "popular". Because that may ruin the psyscene..
To many dumb people out there that wants to make to much money. Just look at Hip-Hop.. *bling bling* |
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Rik
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 11:44
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On 2004-08-03 09:31, psytones wrote:
Written by a Norwegian guy by the name 'LostInTime' on the Infected Mushroom forum.
The problem is, other music sounds wierd, so simple and repetetive, slow and boring.
Does this mean psy can never get a popular/commercial appeal?
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I do wonder what other music you would be listening to, but with break core, acid house, techno, drum&bass played in here in belgium i would neither call them slow, boring or simple ( some might qualify for repetitive though)
If he personally can't appreciate other music anymore that's a sad thing for this person imho!
as for the second statement i think psytrance already is turning commercial... we now have a dedicated music store in antwerpen selling only psytrance and several online music stores dedicated to us and us alone, +10.000 people festivals almost every month during the summertime. cd's are being released at unseen rates for our "scene" and artists fly across the world weekend after weekend.
If I look back on the limited time (1997-today) that i've been part of this "scene" (if there is such a thing) a lot of things have and still are changing and this will continue wether we like it or not 
it is not up to us to control it, but to make the best out of it for as long as we want to.
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 12:04
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heh))
trance CAN be commercial. just look at psy scene at russia. 90% of big parties there are made only for making money.
about music experience: it's individual
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 12:46
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Well...
I guess you wont find Infected Mushroom on the top 20 fighting Briteny Spears for the 1 place in Russia? When a psytrance act is in the billboard list and so on..
That is a reality that may accure one day.
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FLuR
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 15:10
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IM in russia are everywhere. that's one of the most popular artists there. Thanx god there is no psy on MTV or smth. but you can hear infecteds all over the Moscow even on the streets
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FLuR
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 15:13
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A big part of russian ppl visiting big parties there know only gms, scazi and IM.
god save the psy)))
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 15:16
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underground or independent music doesn´t necessarily have to remain unknown.
what´s important is that it doesn´t give a fuck about what sells or what other people tell you to do.
being independent means to be very strong, to follow your dreams and visions and to work in a regular job in order not to have to rely on bookings/ record sales etc.
for example future sound of london, prodigy and the chemical brothers are true underground musicians even if they are famous right now. you can hear that in the music.
they didn´t make any fake compromise or confession.
the major problem are ignorant people (bootlickers) wanting to release their poor music only a few months or years after they start producing... the major problem is impatience.
there are only very few extremely talented masterminds as mozart - remember that...
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FLuR
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 15:20
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well, i agree
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FLuR
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 15:23
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But in Russia there is a good phrase -
MANY THINGS ARE DOING THROUGH THE ASS
that's the situation with psy scene in Russia.
PS i talk only about big parties
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 18:02
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On 2004-08-03 15:16, deejayridoo wrote:
underground or independent music doesn´t necessarily have to remain unknown.
what´s important is that it doesn´t give a fuck about what sells or what other people tell you to do.
being independent means to be very strong, to follow your dreams and visions and to work in a regular job in order not to have to rely on bookings/ record sales etc.
for example future sound of london, prodigy and the chemical brothers are true underground musicians even if they are famous right now. you can hear that in the music.
they didn´t make any fake compromise or confession.
the major problem are ignorant people (bootlickers) wanting to release their poor music only a few months or years after they start producing... the major problem is impatience.
there are only very few extremely talented masterminds as mozart - remember that...
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Well... mm.. I must say that i absolutely agree 100% But remember FSOL is more underground then lets say The "respect to Liem" Prodigy. Because everyone has heard of the name The Prodigy and the genius work of the mastermind, Liem Howlett. But when it comes to FSOL.. Very many has heard of the name Future Sound Of London. But very very few has really heard the music, exept a a song or two. So that makes FSOL more underground..
And just to add. I love both FSOL and The Prodigy. But the two bands that i love the most is Marilyn Manson (He "kinda" saved my life throu his belifes of beliving in your self) and the masters; Infected Mushroom. (Who was my first psytrance experience on mAgiC mUshRoOm... (I had never heard of IM before eather)
I'm 23 btw.. and on speed.. 
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Stash
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Posted : Aug 4, 2004 13:32
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the question to be asked here is DO WE REALly want PSy to get MASS appeal??????
i guess some artists i wont mention them have already gone commercial with their music and their music has got mass appeal..not on the scale of pop/hip-hop but on a scale much larger then most artists on the psy scene...........there are some who want to make money and some who are in it for the love of the music...........so i guess an underground side will always exist to this music...............it depends from person to person what side he chooses to listen to and embrace..............
IMO PSy getting a mass appeal wud not be good..trust me on that
bom!!!! 
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Psilocibino
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Posted : Aug 4, 2004 14:49
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On 2004-08-04 13:32, Stashbag wrote:
the question to be asked here is DO WE REALly want PSy to get MASS appeal??????
IMO PSy getting a mass appeal wud not be good..trust me on that
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Yes man, but unfurtunally there's nothing we can do about that! Today's media capacity (and internet mainly) offers everyone a chance to get in touch with different things and new cultures and events! trance is one of those things....
I don't think it's about the music beeing commercial or not....I think the main reason why Psy-trance is getting everywhere is because people just boring with clubs, and desapointed with the house/tecnho scenne and they're looking for something new and exiting for them!! don't you think psy-trance is a reasonable next step to them? i mean...what could be better then get out of those stupid smooky clubs dancefloors and get out in the forest where you are free and can do almost whathever you want?
I think this is a good reason for more and more people start listen and going to trance partys!! and don't see that as a bad bad thing...but some things will be lost for sure!!
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