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Dark Trance ? WTF?
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 14:29
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is it a genre name???
how the dark sounds??
everybody talk about dark psytrance like it is a genre..
but darkness is only a feeling in music.
it can be fullon and it can be minimal and it can be progressive
so when you say dark psy what do you mean ???
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ganjagil
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 14:34
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dark psy istrance music which gives you a dark evil feeling it is not yet split into dark prog, or dark fullon or anything it is just called dark psy...
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Pt.
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 14:35
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Well, i see "Suria - Dark side of the sun" as a perfect example of Dark-psy. 
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PSY-knight
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 14:37
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opposite of up-lifting!!!! one could either call it deep or dark psy!!!! |
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 17:45
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everything can be up-lifting.....it depends on the context
i think we use words in a wrong way sometimes, music is not something you always can describe with words...
thats why we get in conflict with eachother... because words can meen different things to different persons....
So i dont think you will reach a synthesis on this one...
but you can always try...
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deeplydisturbed
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 18:00
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dark has those twisted sounds,it plays with your mind.check out scorb 13.5hours.....thats dark! |
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Anak
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 18:17
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the style that we call dark trance (parasense, para halu, etc.)...hm hm hm. i dont like this definition...because its not dark imho...its sick, hard and twisted, but dark is something else. dark psytrance is creepy and sends shivers down the body. and it can be very slow, or even beatless. actually, the slower, the darker. dark trance for me is for example sandmans early works (witchcraft, matsuri productions) or some of cosmosis' works (cave of medusa, avatar rec's) and also xenomorph's "cassandras nightmare".
if you ask me...theres no dark music around anymore... 
of course, its just my opinion. lets call it music anyway...
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Nik©
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 19:27
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Plz someone explain this people
, they made up some words, up-lifting ... Plane is uplifting, yeah it will lift you up..... If there is an uplifting music , then it will be Dark Full Power , cause it lift you up for sure, but be careful don’t try flipping backwards over your head cause you might just hurt your self ...
Dark isn't new style, Goa Trance was dark most of it , in the beginning , then came all other styles - full on , proggy minimal , whatever
Main Point its returning back closer to the way it was!!! Dark music is killer for dark forest party with good sound, but also suitable for playing on any trance party’s at night
True that there are different kinds of dark sound, and some unprofessional dark music, can sound disturbing, and making a little paranoia … But unprofessional full on, or proggy sound wouldn’t sound good either.
So don’t be afraid of darkness, unless you are all a bunch of little sassy girls
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 19:55
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The Darkness is also a place to relax... its a place to find your inner self...
in the light you see everything clear so you cant make those inner reflections..
thats one view i have of it...
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Basilisk
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 20:08
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There are enough releases coming out in this style that I would agree a subgenre descriptor could be of use in classifying those works with a common theme. I think there is no question that it is a movement - I can easily name several artists making this faster, harder, crazier mental night style... but 'dark trance' is a poor name for it I would claim, since there is darker psytrance out there that doesn't focus so much on the rough and tumble beat... well, after having given it some thought I'd propose to call it PSYCORE.
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Opus (Eli)
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 20:18
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On 2004-10-20 14:35, psytones wrote:
Well, i see "Suria - Dark side of the sun" as a perfect example of Dark-psy.
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i with you men in 1 milion%.
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Ohmem
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 21:07
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The Delta - Thing
Authentik - A10
Dark Soho - Unusual Ceremony
M.O.S. - Coming
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 21:15
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hello to everyone
this post is intended to show the night trance world as it is, i will not define it comparing it to other styles, i will not define it comparing it to the pre-established concept of what the "psychedelic scene" is, i will just define what night trance looks for, the characteristics of the universe it explores, the line that has been chosen to follow, develop and multiply.
i have personally explore darkness since i was a little kid listening to marilyn manson, nine inch nails and all that stuff, i have been a depressive goth with my nails painted black and i have also danced under the sun listening to gms, talamasca and sesto sento. but the dark side is where i always go back, so therefore darkness and its world have been a constant in my life and now i give you my conclusions about it in a hopefull attempt to sort out the infinite loop of debate called light vs dark.
there is a confusion in this discussion, a pattern of disorder in all the threads and discussions that are related with the light vs dark issue. most of them have to do with the fact that each side discusses its point going in circles, they all lock in their position until no one is hearing each other no more ("KEEP IT EVIL", "PSYTRANCE SHOULD BE EUPHORIC AND HAPPY"). and then you have the deepest confusion, which is when each side uses the "psychedelic scene" to go after the other, "full on is not psychedelic", "evil and satan have nothing to with psychedelic".
i will make 2 flat statements before starting
1)psychedelic trance is based on the idea of destroying our ego to achieve collective consciousness and unite with ourselves, nature, cosmos, humanity, everything that exists throughout celebration, which includes music as a vital part.
2)all sub styles of psychedelic trance belong to psychedelic trance, in fact psychedelic feeds from these differences and this is what makes it so interesting. its one of the few scenes which actually preaches differences as something positive ("why be normal if you can be yourself?"), everyone is allowed to dance, dress and be the way they choose.
ok now on to night trance
darkness is not about good or about evil, it has nothing to do with god or satan. night is not the reply to full on, dark is not the dialectic opposite for light. darkness is a third way, a twisted one, sometimes is scary, sometimes is not clear, but its there, the cosmos in its full strengh, the darkness surrounding the sun. night trance has nothing to do with sadness, depression or anguish, it has nothing to do with happynnes and perfection, its just a third way, trascending good and bad. it is a crazy dance, with strange creatures, strange enviroments, its a dark forest with gobling juggling and aliens flying above, its the feeling you get when you go walking in the dark, and everything can be possible, either good or bad, it does not matter, the idea of a thousands of possiblities is what matters, your mind attempting to sort it out and failing.
darkess is that line, its not death, but its nof life. it has the strengh to destroy your ego, it goes deep and hits hard, its not pleasent, but that is the whole point, the idea is not be confortable, the idea is to destroy every point holding you to your mind and your ego. fear is a very important obstacle to overcome, and night trance deals with this issue all the time, they show you death, they show you pain, but not because they want to dwell in it forever, not because they want everyone to die and be unhappy, on the contrary they attack one of the most complicated parts we have to deal as spiritual beings, the fear of death and suffering. night draws its energy out of the abyss, out of death and fear, that is what it makes it so powerfull, the basslines, the heavy acid sounds, its a constant line and the ones who are not afraid to follow it understand what it is all about.
look at the pictures of psychotic micro playing in cyprus, look at their eyes, their bodies, strengh, no fear, twisted dance, shouting to the cosmos, doing the devil sign in an attempt to express an energy which cannot be reduced to gestures, words, only sounds and feelings. again, night trance is not for feeling relaxed, its not pleasent, its for those who have decided to live life its full strenght, taking the good and the bad as equal, pulling out energy from everything that happens, as a warrior, as a goblin, as creature, forgetting we are human, forgetting our ideas and personal feelings, becoming cosmos, the warped universe that surrounds us.
psychedelic trance explores the unknown, it goes to space, it goes to the back of our minds, and night trance in this time is the one who leads the way in to these strange worlds which we dont know, we dont imagine, aliens, black holes, e.s.p, magic, pyramids, all of these are not good or bad, just strange, unpredictable, like when you were a small kid and you were afraid of the dark, you could imagine everything there, monsters, freddy krueger, god, satan, its all the same, what is important is that feeling of uncertainty which sets your "other side" working, irrational, fractal, cosmic, that is darkness, not knowing what will happen, finding peace in uncertainty.
zen buddist have satori, hindu relgions illumination, we occidental-freaks have psychedelic trance and now night trance, get those fucking egos destroyed and dance .
ok there it is, for me that is darkness, and it will continue to explore it every day, trying to be less human everyday, trying to turn into an alien everyday, fuck sadness, fuck happiness, i just want twisted shit going on .
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 22:02
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"night trance is not for feeling relaxed"
relaxed to release the tension from our ordinary lifes...
Relaxed to become one with the cosmic energy that surround us....
Relaxed because you can let all your feelings flow with the music....
im relaxed around chaos, it would be foolish to struggle...
thats my point....
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daniel duarte
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 22:22
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personally i think all this sub-genres only split up people and divide the scene.
i can apreciate most of the music styles that exist while other people just focus on one and ignore/hate/make fun of the other ones.
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