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Damage - God Help Us (Chemical Crew)
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SuPeR MiA
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 12:34
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maybe....
may be i didnt understend u well...
but enywat this cd- is old matirial...
but im sure that the next 1 will be more killa as all the NEWdamage stuff |
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Voice of All
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Posted : Apr 24, 2005 12:02
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Hi Mubali
It seems like one more time I need some explanaitions from you as it was in topic about Mistress of Evil  . You said that it appears that each of the artists that release on that label have very very similar sounds. I'm realy don't understand what is the features of that 'similar sound'
I think that we can do our best if we will turn to the few releases from Chemical Crew Rec. So I wonder if there anything what might be called similar in the styles of [for example] Void, Exaile and Damage.
Void has its unique sound and way of producing. It is great original music - very talanted and free from patterns. It has wide ranged emotional concept and I have to say it once more it is original unique sound. I know there are people who don't like it and even saying that it is not trance-music but you know that it is all about words and it doesn't mean that music not good.
Exaile - very 'musicial' trance Great tunes and high-emotional vibes along with perfect production... That is Exaile. It is deep exploration of music side of psychedelic. It is all in the frames of traditional psy-trance way of being but it is so deep, so inspired and so touching. And by the way it is very solid with it music concept. 2 different albums with music created in very different ways. And both are very very good.
Damage - not so great as both previous acts in my eyes but without a doubt very talented and very opened to new ideas project. It is only respectable his attempts to bring new sound from hardcore to psytrance. Such efforts are very wanted by genre in the way it development. And it is especial for psy-trance cause of its sound diversity.
Yes we have rather weak disc Mafia and all acts that was released there sound far from amazing but you should remember that it is bit of expirimental CD Maybe expiriment has not wanted results but what can we do?  - it seems like there are almost no labels without couple of avarage releases Maybe you are right and in the future we will have all musicians of Chemical Crew sound the same but I'm sure that we need 'lay in a stock' some pretty large portion of patience to catch the moment where such different acts as I have wrote in the first part of post will be sound one like the other
Naturally it is my humble opinion here, but I'm ready to discuss this question with more details about music of these acts and in comparision of their styles...
Good luck and I hope that your own release will be rather original and tasty to make me change my mind and admit 'similarity' of Chemical Crew Rec. artists And by the way thank you for detailed and interesting posts... i like to read them even if I don't agree with your thoughts or opinions.
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mubali
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 20:33
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Hello Voice of all... Yes it does seem like I should clarify my points a little bit.
Chemical Crew's sound has been linking hard dance and psychedelic trance together since it was Shaffel records.
There are certain synth sounds that make you automatically think of "rave" or "candy trance" or Anthem Trance. Every single track on the Damage album has a synth sound like that. You will find those similar synth sounds on Exaile tracks, Void tracks, Skazi, 40%, Psychotic Micro, etc..etc... but only on those tracks released on Chemical Crew. I'm not talking about just Mafia... Look at Zoo 3 for instance... But there are other things that really assist with the assesment I have made...
Basslines... you'll notice that the bass instrument is pretty much the same for all of these artists. I know in particular with Damage, his stuff that has been released on other labels has a different bass sound to it.
There are certain Skaziesque percussion tricks that always manage to make it into at least one song of someone on that particular label. it's where the snares/hi hats/percussion are reversed for a 2 beat count at the end of a phrase.
I am not saying that the music that any of the artists are doing is bad. What I am saying however is, at one point in time labels didn't have a signature sound. They just put out good artists regardless of what the substyle was or if the artists tracks sounded like everything else on the compilation. Prior to Chemical Crew, Shaffel was one of those labels as well. Zoo 1 was an excellent compilation with all types of different artists and different sounding tracks on there too. Zoo 2 wasn't too bad either, but it was starting to get to the point where the tracks were starting to sound a little similar. Not really as much as current though.
What I am beginning to notice is that many labels have began catering to a certain sound or style of tracks they release in order to build a sense of uniqueness in the miasma of relatively similar sounding music as a whole. (but that's another discussion altogether)
On one hand I can completely understand why this is from the label's perspective, but as a listener who got infected by this stuff in 2k1, I remember when 3D Vision didn't have a more uniform sound like it seems like now. I remember when Tip World was on the cutting edge of slightly experimental music. Dude... Parasense released a track on TipWorld back then for crying out loud.. My only beef with this whole uniform thing is in a sense it's slightly separating an already diverse but segregated music style into even smaller camps.
Personally, I can honestly say that every CC artist has at one point in time made something that I either played or loved so much that I would listen to it on a daily basis, and the artists seemed like they were a little more experimental at the time. It just kinda seems to me that the CC artists were given some guidelines and told to write music within those stricter guidlines.
Granted, the Damage album is most likely been on the shelf for some time now. The only issue that I have is that for a full length album it would have been nice to hear a little more sonic diveristy and maybe even a bit more experimentalness throughout. The only reason why I am even this adamant about this album is because I have been a really big fan ever since I bought the Afrogalactic compilation Alien Safari. I really really really like what Deon brings to the psychedelic table and his fusion of other genre beats and the psy really is something that I love. I was just rather disappointed with this album as a whole and expected something a little different from it. I have heard lots of stuff that is older and some slightly newer stuff too and it doesn't sound like the album.
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Voice of All
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 01:11
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Yeah thanks a lot, Mubali i think I got the point. You trying to say about that 'style' of artists of CC that they have generally from the point of Zoo 3 and you call it Skazique style. I must agree with you and that is the fact such tendention is. But it is nothing more then trying to be more commercial... To have more populrity and have more fans. CC decide to develop themself in this way... In the way of build some cognate features to be more wanted and more claimed by amateurs... I think it is not the fault of CC itself - it is impartial tendention of development of the whole scene and I think if we need to find guilty we should claim ourselves cause we are guilty in the growth of the scene and its high popularity nowaday. Our world has rather bad laws in the way of social and economics and these laws are working already... you and me can change nothing... Yes it is commercial music in the commercial world but I'm far from saying that commercial is bad. It can be bad but it can be not. All in all CC artists are very high talented and they have large potential... so if some of them will choose to leave the label I think they will but their place will be taken by antother who will continue with the 'CC-style'. Once it has been created and now it will be More then this I can easily predict that with each next year we will see more and more psytrance labels wich will choose the CC way of positioning themselves. Unfortunately it is normal and in our reality if somthing is normal it has success
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mubali
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 02:32
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I do agree with what you are saying. In the end, one can't really sit back and complain about, you just need to seek out the stuff that really "cranks your socket" (term borrowed from Ocelot) and that will influence you as a listener, dj or artist to really make music that represents yourself and your emotions.
Commercial music isn't bad at all... It was hip hop and funk and R&B that turned me onto Drum & Bass... If I hadn't been a junglist, I wouldn't have ever gotten turned onto psytrance... Commercial sounding music of any genre is a gateway to the stuff that doesn't get regular airplay. I still have a soft spot for some commercial music, and in the end the commercial sounding stuff does accomplish its goal, which is a similar goal that all dancemusic tries to accomplish... Getting the floor moving. In the end, those that have been listening to the music for quite a while develop a favorite sound and style, and it sometimes is very difficult to fully appreciate other music that isn't your favorite sound or style. Just remember what's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander and the inverse holds very true... I think the CC style will continue to draw in new listeners, especially from the hard dance sound. Those new listeners will crave the music and begin to seek out all types of the genre.
Oh... and lastly... I used to play those Mars and Mystere records too...
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marc_and_jason
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Posted : May 28, 2005 00:45
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Awesome album from Damage!!!We were expecting something rather crappy after reading some of the reviews here,but this one blows us away!Can't wait to see where these trax take our minds in the darkest hours of the next gig!!! |
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aliened
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Posted : Jun 2, 2005 01:57
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deon 'damage ' south africa
my fav song is 'porn fever ' .. this has nothin with erotic mood or hot stuff .. deon just laughin at all this porn shit showin his attitude to this ' kind of art '
1st track is very good start .. nice cover and design , and woyt i like more its the albums title
interestin if anybody knows in wot chem mafia tracjk deon was involved ( i like mafia much more then both void and damage albums)
i wud like to add some .. think asher is worse chemical artist .. |
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acidance
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 15:48
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deon rocks
end of story
one thing
if the album was released when it was supposed to be released opinions about it would be really different.
for my ears it's a very good release
the overall production is killer
all the best deon
hope for more succesfull releases in the future. keep up blasting and take no shit from nobody.
god help the deaf who cant appriciate art
sase
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Jun 13, 2005 22:25
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On 2005-04-26 20:33, mubali wrote:
There are certain Skaziesque percussion tricks that always manage to make it into at least one song of someone on that particular label. it's where the snares/hi hats/percussion are reversed for a 2 beat count at the end of a phrase.
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hell , Mubali .. i was searching all over for proper technical terms to describe that one off -putting, irritating side of this album...
I really like Damage's sound.. i find it gritty heavy and intelligent.. this album has one or two tracks i like.. but teh rest wash over..
But good stuff from Damage and wish him teh best in the future..
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longo.sf
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 03:46
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annoying ina good way.irritant.just can't stop my body when hearing porno fever and happy darkside.ultimate masterkilling dark funky stuff.loved the album in general.waiting him to play here in brazil to kill the crowd.good samples.groooovy basslines.perfect beatbreaks.congratulations to the south africans innovative sounds |
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splinter
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Posted : Apr 1, 2006 02:27
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this is definitly my favourite album iv heard.
I just wish the mastering was better... |
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