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Computer Vs CDJ - The truth has that to be said, I place any dj in the pocket with the Computer

EarWorm
EarWorm

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Posted : Aug 9, 2006 04:26
It's all about what the dj himself/herself prefer. It's all analog vs digital all over again. As of now i'm going with cdj's,in the future.......who knows. It's all creativity, just different levels of it.           --- "Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that" ---

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Enertopia
Enertopia

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Posted : Aug 10, 2006 22:44
Actually, the headline of this thread is very ARROGANT and Provocative I place any dj in the pocket with the Computer...Blast.
MercuryFall
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 12:57
yeah,yeah, computer cn choose the best fitting tracks, can create a high energy flow, smoothly mix a track with another, it can jump and smile like crazy, and a computer can also make you coffee and clean your dishes. point made.
Goddess of Chaos


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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 16:41
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On 2006-08-10 22:44, Enertopia wrote:
Actually, the headline of this thread is very ARROGANT and Provocative I place any dj in the pocket with the Computer...



Agreed-

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yeah,yeah, computer cn choose the best fitting tracks, can create a high energy flow, smoothly mix a track with another, it can jump and smile like crazy, and a computer can also make you coffee and clean your dishes. point made.



Hehehe.. you do have a point there

          "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace"
Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posts :  1441
Posted : Aug 11, 2006 17:44
Bottom line..I doubt anyone in the crowd has any freakin clue what the DJ is using to mix..As long as the mixes are good who cares what they use..

Mixing with CDJ's & a DJ mixer is much more fun but you can still have fun mixing with the PC if you've got a DJ controller..          http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
piXan
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 01:46
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On 2006-08-03 00:19, piXan wrote:
im quoting myself
mixing with a computer can be professional and a lot of fun and creativeness if u have:

-an audio interface with at least two 24 bits audio stereo outputs (neeedles to say thats better than 16 bits as in Cds
-a dedicated and well configured midi controller like maudio x-session or evolution uc-133
-an external top of the line dj mixer so u can split the two outputs into the mixer, just the same as with cdj decks, so u actually mix on the hardware, not on the (lets say traktor 3) mixer
-DO NOT use the autobeatmatch option, which by the way is completely useless, if u think that this program can beatmatch with just atouch of a button ure wrong, it sucks! u just pitch like any cdj

then it behaves exactly like a cdj with the advantages of:
-visual input of the waveform,(these feature is very very cool and useful for creative mixing.
- 4 decks available, so if u got a souncard with 4 stereo outputs is like having 4 cdjs
-excellent looping options very precise and visual feedback
- really nice filters that can do a lot more than eq giving u can option more to alter the sounds

i use this setup and its a lot of fun, make a lot of loops, messing with 4 decks is cool as hell. its just different!

i also like to cdj with pioneers and have fun too.. why close urself to new technologies, sooner or later they become more standard, so be prepared!

          www.soundcloud.com/elektroakustica/sets/downtempo/
Ah-sid


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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 07:37
cdj is the best,as many of us grew up on it making psy language and vision.but as time advances...since the PC is butting itself in everything available,it is unavoidable but to accept that PC will replace cdj very soon.fine example-skool note books r being replaced by IBM note books...!
piXan
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 11:02
why feel bad about the use of computers in psytrance dj sets, all of the tracks u mix on the cdj, woulnt even exist if it werent for CPU. dont think conventional laptops will replace cdjs. i most likely think some company will come up with a hybrid system that will have the feel of cdj or vinyl , and the graphic interface and other features on software mixers. cant wait to see that!!!           www.soundcloud.com/elektroakustica/sets/downtempo/
psyciks
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 09:41
my opinion is that a real dj have to mix with cdj(100-200-500-1000)with pc everyone can make agood mix even a 10years kid.show if you are a dj you should know how to play with cdj because you have to work to make a good mix pc is for amateurs lazy dayz
psyciks
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 09:45
every one can be dj with a pc a few with cdjs thats the point seeeeeeeeee yaa
simon_marklar


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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 10:18
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On 2006-08-02 23:40, piXan wrote:
i tend to freak out when someone diss at ableton.
dont mess with the ableton!
and it has a very cool fader too u can easily use it with something like x-session
whats so great about ableton is that it destroys the line that sepparates a dj from a producer-live act. i mean u can play ur tunes in a dj style , complete with ur fader, the only difference is that all ur tunes are time corrected (not beatmatch so it stays in its original pitch and note), the u dont have to worry about that mechanical side and thats where the musician has time to trigger and manipulate samples in real time, pplay a drum machine, fx incoming live audio like vocals, guitar, and of course play live synthetizers. tell me which cdj has the ability to do this. i think im not being off topic, because with these tool more djs will be encouraged to produce or at least remix, and producers to take a new approach at mixing their music




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Posted by : psyciks
Posted on : 2006-08-16 09:45
every one can be dj with a pc a few with cdjs thats the point seeeeeeeeee yaa



the exact same thing was said about CD's when they started making cdj's...
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Dj Rafael Ourique


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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 22:02
Pessoal estou emocionado com a repercução do assunto. sabia que ia dar o que falar, mas não esperava tanto assim!!!

O site está de parabens,pelo ótimo trabalho realizado.

Saudaçoes Psicodélicas para todos

Staff I am moved with the repercução of the subject. wise person who went to give what to speak, but did not wait in such a way thus! The site is of congratulations, for the excellent carried through work.

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Dj Rafael Ourique


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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 22:35
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On 2006-07-31 22:35, SMS wrote:
Just my 2 cents here....

For a long time one of the most difficult thing about djing was the beatmatch. Nowadays the computers brought a new concept imho.

First of all it is absolutlly real that mixing with computer is much easier than with cdj. Why??? Cause with computer u have all the tracks "ready" to play. U only need to press play(not even at right time u need to press) to beatmatch the tracks.

But now, u can hear a lot of DJ�s making a lot more things than just Beatmatch. And how they do it??? With computers... It�s like impossible to biuld a nice machine to make fx�s like a computer( u will need several hardwares). So I guess this kind of DJ set is a new concept. And cannot be compared to CD, Vinyl, DAT dj�s sets...
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Now a little question for our KILLER MASTER PC-DJ that opened this thread... Have u ever seen some DMC�s playing??? I�m curious to see a battle between u(with COmputer) and them(with the old Technicks mk2)....



Seria uma honra dj ! Vocês profissionais tem que relevar pois ainda sou amador! não tenho conhecimento como vocês!! mas estou chegando e evoluindo, pesquizando, pesquizando para tornar esse som mágico cada vez mais ipnotizante e atraente, como já disse estou emocionado com a repercussão do tópico, pra mim já basta ter ouvido, a palavra dos the best Djs of the word que tem cadastro nesse site.
Um abraço fiquem com Deus

Saudações Psicodélicas

Dj would be an honor! Vocês professional has that to stand out therefore still I am amateur! I do not have knowledge as vocês! but I am arriving and evolving, pesquizando, pesquizando to become this magical sound each ipnotizante and attractive time, as already it said I am moved with the repercussion of the topic, pra me already is enough to have heard, the word of the best Djs of the word that it has I register in cadastre in this site. One I hug are with God Psichedelic greetings
Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton

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Posted : Aug 17, 2006 07:31
but you could place any dj in the pocket right?
Thats fuckin awsome for beeing an amateur
sam i am
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 17, 2006 09:24
to me it's quite simple. I can carry around more music (that I have paid for & stored as wave files) on an external hard drive than I can in a CD wallet. That's all there is to it! Yes, the fact that Ableton will stretch your tunes without changing the pitch is great & obviously not having to worry about matching the beats, asides from a little bit of beat mapping at home before the gig, is great, but it's the storage that's key. The only thing missing is sound quality with recorded vinyl, so I'll prob'ly take a crate & a laptop around with me one day           new Hadal Drop album on the way

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