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CDJs Vs Digital Djing

V3NOM
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Posted : Sep 28, 2011 02:54
No, I was not the first one in this thread to bring up techno & house, I was merely responding to the uneducated comments that poster had made about those styles

And furthermore I was explaining how I earn an excellent income from DJing, not by playing a style and scene that has been and will continue to be dying out for the last decade compared to all other styles of EDM..



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Shiranui
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Posted : Sep 28, 2011 03:00
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On 2011-09-28 01:19, zafer wrote:
@ shiranui : the only thing that has changed is the quality of lsd25

Again, it is you that has changed and not the chemical.

Yes, incidence of impure LSD has gone up BUT the majority of LSD out there is still 95% pure or better. The /dosage/ might have changed as well but it is just as widely varied as it was 10-15 years ago.

What is more likely is that you have gotten too used to the effects of the drug and they don't blow your mind like they did before. It doesn't take you by surprise anymore because you've learned all of its tricks.

Every drug's "magic" wears off eventually if you do enough of it. Some just take longer than others.

I used to think that I stopped getting good acid because I stopped getting the intense visual experiences that I had gotten the first dozen or so times I took it.

Then I realized that the reason for that was that I was now taking it and doing distracting things like dancing and talking to people instead of just sitting still, staring at a wall/tapestry and letting the stuff do its work.

When I first took it, the visual distortions were so /fascinating/ that my eyes were glued to them and I couldn't stop staring. After more experience I was able to ignore them.
Braindrop
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Posted : Sep 29, 2011 01:04
Peepz... lets get back to the topic.... no wars plz

Alright , so final showdown...

Traktor vs Ableton vs others (mixvibes for ex.) ??

Who takes the cake ?           www.braindrop.in
V3NOM
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Posted : Sep 29, 2011 01:53
I've used Serato & Traktor. If you a playing psy then Traktor is the way to go for sure, Serato is aimed more for the broken beat/dnb/hiphop/dubstep styles.

Traktor I found really easy to setup with the native instruments controller. Of course the controller feels a bit different to real Cdjs & mixer, but it's sturdy & no lag.

I tried the Pioneer controller a few times but it wasn't as good. It lagged & took a lot longer to really work well with the software.

The only way you'll know is to go to your local dj store and have a play, like any equipment it's a personal thing & opinions/reviews only can tell you so much.           I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
willsanquil
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Posted : Sep 29, 2011 03:26
I <3 DJing psytrance with ableton and my APC40...I vastly prefer it over traktor.

Plus you can do a lot more production-wise with Ableton.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Sep 29, 2011 11:59
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On 2011-09-28 01:19, zafer wrote:

i thought this was a psy trance forum and that you were sharing you experience djing psytrance for a goa dance-floor...





This is a psytrance forum, but this is also the djing section of it and since the "psytrance scene" involves alot of subgenres such as progressive, techy, ambient, dub, chillout, and so on. this place is not only for djing psytrance but djing in general.
Luca@BlueHourSounds
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Posted : Sep 29, 2011 16:56
Have you seen this one here?







Still i'm not having the need to have such a thing;
as a psytrance dj i have less needs of tricks, and more need
of brilliant tracks with good masterings!
But it's a very attractive tool indeed!



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Posted : Sep 29, 2011 17:13
^^also a big plus in these setups is that you play everywhere like playing at home...
willsanquil
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 06:46
That is one of the biggest things that makes laptop DJing appealing to me - not having to deal with other people's shitty mixer/CDJs that have god knows what wrong with them!            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Shiranui
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 08:25
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On 2011-09-30 06:46, willsanquil wrote:
That is one of the biggest things that makes laptop DJing appealing to me - not having to deal with other people's shitty mixer/CDJs that have god knows what wrong with them!


True. But on the downside it means always bringing your equipment with you. I travel on foot everywhere and some of the parties I DJ at are warehouse parties in very dangerous parts of east oakland, so it's nice to know that all I risk being taken are my headphones and CDs. To replace that is like $80 for the headphones, $30 for the CD case, and $40 plus a few hours of work for the burned CDs. Versus over $1000 for laptop + controller + sound card.
Braindrop
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Posted : Oct 1, 2011 22:01
I love Ableton... love it to bits.. just that the warping thing is a bit of a pain in the ass sometimes... and it kind of cuts off compresses the frequencies a bit...
Traktor is cool and easy, free flowing but doesnt have the flexbility of Ableton imo. Imo ableton u can seamlessly mixing 100s of tracks at a same time if u wanT!!

So maybe it is Ableton for me now... till i lay my hands on a more revolutionary product!           www.braindrop.in
willsanquil
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Posted : Oct 2, 2011 03:06
Cuts off/compresses the frequencies a bit?

Never heard anything about this, either online or from my ears. Are you talking about when you play a track up or down from its original tempo??

If you warp a track 'properly' and play it at its original tempo there is no change at all, at least to my ears...and when I do play it up/down from its original it sounds amazing on the Complex setting. Make sure you're not using Beats mode!            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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V3NOM
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Posted : Oct 2, 2011 04:08
I can see why Ableton is a great choice for those who are a bit more production minded but just as a DJ I find Taktor has been very easy to switch from CDJs to.

Again as I'm playing less rave style and more gigs I'm finding a lot of clubs have Traktor & Serato already set up on a computers, or else I feel safe taking mine along to such venues.

When I play outdoors though I still use CDs & CDJ or if the option is available USB keys with my tracks & cue points loaded.

My only major concern is that now software DJs seem so focussed on the computer that interaction or eye contact with crowd has gone.

I saw Aphex Twin years ago & he sat in the far rear right hand corner of the stage behind a big computer monitor with a desk/study lamp, you never saw his face except when he walked on & off stage. It meant the focus was definitely on the music & massive visuals but he could have played an iPod mix and it would've been almost the same           I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
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Posted : Oct 2, 2011 05:43
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On 2011-10-02 04:08, V3NOM wrote:

My only major concern is that now software DJs seem so focussed on the computer that interaction or eye contact with crowd has gone.

I saw Aphex Twin years ago & he sat in the far rear right hand corner of the stage behind a big computer monitor with a desk/study lamp, you never saw his face except when he walked on & off stage. It meant the focus was definitely on the music & massive visuals but he could have played an iPod mix and it would've been almost the same




I also agree on that, as a DJ I like to see the crowd, even mayke eye contact with some people dancing, its very very nice when you get a big smile from someone dancing like crazy in the dancefloor.

SO if using computers, pls, pls, put it at a side not between you and the crowd.           "The dedication to repetition the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
supergroover
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Posted : Oct 2, 2011 10:08
they need to make a controller for traktor of the ipad.           soundcloud.com/supergroover
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