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CDJs Vs Digital Djing

alien_radio
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Posted : Jul 21, 2010 21:35:27
There's a great deal of argument goin on over this among some of my friends. Some of them say REAL DJS DON'T USE LAPTOPS (they don't care to xplain why though). My opinion is, Music is music anyways and it takes a bit of skill to lay out a perfect mix either ways. Using a Midi controller and a laptop has its own advantages like, Able to carry your own rig with tons of tracks packed jus in a travel trolley;Gives u the ability to use a bunch of VST FX; Makes it a lot easier to find a track n play it.

What do u guys think about it? Is there really a reason Y djing using CDJs are better than Digital Djing? Or is it only in India that kids think CDJs r the deal n others r Shite?
Ascension
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Posted : Jul 21, 2010 22:19
I was unaware people still had these arguments. Tell them it's 2010, not 2003. Every new djing medium gets hated on by people who use the previous one and eventually most people realize it's a pointless thing to argue over.
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alien_radio
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Posted : Jul 21, 2010 22:24
@Ascension: Yeah thats right bro....!! Jus like how the commercial Djs used to argue on Turntables Vs CDJs way back.
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 00:03
the point is the final result by usin what is good for you...
turntables we forget in psytrance...and i believe the whole thing whith this is the sense of vinyl and of course that u can see the waveform through it too.
whith cdjs ok you have the tempo and its easier finding the beat and all digital easies...
whith laptop you sync and no beatmatch and off course you can see waveforms but if the computer does not find it what can you do?you have to know to mix first of all...and offcourse midi knobs and faders have a fake sense...
its like learning to catch a pen...
then you start drawing...catch flow feel vibe and all these that have nothing to do whith the technology someone uses...
use what you want and if you re bored of write cds go via timecode!

Becktrank
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 05:20
i prefer cdjs and ears...
but one should choose what is most comfortable with           ``We shall not cease from exploration - And the end of all our exploring - Will be to arrive where we started - And know the place for the first time.``

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Shiranui
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 07:33
CDJ has the advantage of reliability... computers are unstable. Also has the advantage of cheapness and low risk to the DJ--the worst that can happen is you lose your CDs & CD case which are both cheap and easy to replace, where with a laptop you could lose a $1000+ piece of equipment.

On the other hand, computer DJing software can do everything CDJs can and more. If you just want to end up with the best end result, then it's hard to argue against computer DJing.

also alien_radio I like how everything that isn't psytrance is "commercial" minimal techno and drum n bass djs still argue over vinyl vs CD
Shiranui
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 07:35
Oh I definitely recommend using a real mixer over mixing w/ midi controller... midi controllers tend to have cheaper faders and plus there is always delay

polly
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 10:23
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On 2010-07-22 07:33, Shiranui wrote:

the worst that can happen is you lose your CDs & CD case which are both cheap and easy to replace, where with a laptop you could lose a $1000+ piece of equipment.






side note, my cd case is easily over 600 plus many cd's that it contains are sold out or othervise rare copies           http://www.myspace.com/polly_potb
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 15:36
i dont know why but i have always preffered cdjs over digital djing..... mayb havent experimented too much with digital djing over the years thats why !!
Ascension
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 15:49
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On 2010-07-22 10:23, polly wrote:
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On 2010-07-22 07:33, Shiranui wrote:

the worst that can happen is you lose your CDs & CD case which are both cheap and easy to replace, where with a laptop you could lose a $1000+ piece of equipment.






side note, my cd case is easily over 600 plus many cd's that it contains are sold out or othervise rare copies




That's why you rip those to a harddrive . I recently left a book of some of my cds in a rental car that I hadn't backed up, ugh.          http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 17:31
This argument is so outdated just like some of the statements made here

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On 2010-07-21 22:24, alien_radio wrote:
Jus like how the commercial Djs used to argue on Turntables Vs CDJs way back.



I remember at Ultra Music fest in 2007 - Paul Oakenfold was spinning strictly vinyl, Tiesto - CD's and Paul van Dyke on MacBook Pro (most likely serato scratch) on the same stage one after the other. Now all these three were and are the most commercial dj's of our day. The point is, these commercial DJs used whatever medium they felt comfortable with and no one really cared much about "VS" dilema..... The argument, however about vinyl vs cd's was between Old-School and Nu-Skool DJs, simply because of few facts: DJing on CD is much easier than on vinyl (fact), involves less effort as far as whole DJ skills go on (just pull any turntablism video on youtube). And the other fact is that - Vinyl due to its limitations does sound unique, fuller, fatter, bigger and better on stage than CDs or computers. (we can still argue about it - but it's a fact nonetheless)...

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On 2010-07-22 07:33, Shiranui wrote:
CDJ has the advantage of reliability... computers are unstable.



what computers are unstable? I've DJ'ed with Serato Scratch on a single core pentium (1.86 ghz) back in a day and not a single skip or glitch or BSOD. Done hours and hours of live sets with ableton live (back when it was version 4 and 5) with the same single core laptop and not a single crash.....


anyway, the point is - not sticking with just one medium and becoming a diehard fan of it. i'd advise to further hone and perfect your skills as a DJ to constantly expand, whether it's CD's, vinyl or Computer. learn to use them all -because each has its own unique features to offer.
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Posted : Jul 23, 2010 07:24
Eletronic music has always been about adopting new technologies, so lets welcome digital djing.

Now concerning my preferences the only thing that I dont like about digital djing is staring at the screen, it feel strange.


But I try to find ways around it, maybe one day i will find confortable enough with it.


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Shiranui
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Posted : Jul 26, 2010 14:30
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On 2010-07-22 10:23, polly wrote:
side note, my cd case is easily over 600 plus many cd's that it contains are sold out or othervise rare copies

What the fuck CD case costs that much money

and why do you bring original CDs to DJ with instead of copies? You know they will one day be scratched right?
Shiranui
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Posted : Jul 27, 2010 01:13
I think an essential thing to digital DJing is to get the screen to be flat on the table (like a tablet PC) rather than sitting up, pointed at the DJ.
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Posted : Jul 27, 2010 03:12
whats the point of staring at the screen anyway? pretty much any half-decent midi controller can trigger track playback and track selection for that matter? or do people actually stare at the screen to make sure they're cutting LPF at 12khz and not at 12.5khz? or do people stare to Beatmatch tracks? well in that case, beatmatching is done by ears not by staring... wouldn't you agree?

for me personally takes few seconds to look at the screen and select and load a track onto serato scratch (much less then going through piles and piles of records in crates looking for THAT record and much much less than browsing through CD case searching for THAT CD)..... and just cuz of that i can concentrate my spare time at reading the crowd, mixing, deconstracting, looping /relooping whatever.
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