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Beleive in magic?

wicc@


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Posted : May 31, 2006 22:17
i beleive ..
The main difficulty in recognizing and describing the pure Magical Paradigm is that of insufficient vocabulary. Magical philosophy is only recently recovering from a heavy adulteration with
transcendental theory. The word aether will be used to describe the fundamental reality of the magical paradigm.It is more or less equivalent to the idea of Mana used in oceanic shamanism. Aether
in materialistic descriptions is information which structures matter and which all matter is capable of emitting and receiving.
In transcendental terms aether is a sort of 'life force' present in some degree in all things. It carries both knowledge about events and the ability to influence similar or sympathetic events.
Events either arise sponataneously out of themselves or are encouraged to follow
certain paths by influence of patterns in the aether.
As all things have an aetheric part they can be considered to be alive in some sense.
Thus all things happen by magic, the large scale features of the universe have a very strong aetheric pattern which makes them fairly predictable but difficult to
influence by the aetheric patterns created by thought.
Magicians see themselves as participating in
nature.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Transcendentalists like to think they are somehow above it.> Materialists like to try and manipulate it.>
Ultimately it's a matter of faith and taste.
The transcedentalist has faith in his god self, the materialist has faith in his reasoning self and the selves of the magician have faith in each other.
Naturally, all these forms of faith are subject to periods of doubt.

>> do YOU beleive in MªGÌC ? .... <<


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:.: PAGANDREAMDROP :.:

:...............::......................:Matter is plastic in the face of mind.:...............::......................:








Acidhive
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Posted : Jun 1, 2006 00:24
Whoooooeeeee!!! I don't know what you're all talking about but it sure sounds smart!!
(only people that've watched Freakazoid will understand this)           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
~Paranoia~


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Posted : Jun 1, 2006 00:34
Magic can forestall death, but it cannot resurrect the dead. Wizards are able to extend the normal human lifespan; the Elixir of Life, a byproduct of the Philosopher's Stone, can make its drinker "immortal". However, the Elixir is exceedingly rare and difficult to obtain; its only known users, Nicolas and Perenelle Flamel, measured their lifespans "only" in terms of centuries, not millennia; and when the Philosopher's Stone was destroyed, the Flamels surrendered to their mortality

Now if you ask me if i believe in magic

I think the answer is

Yes           
Paranoia I.R.A.O. Weed

'Dr.Weedome'
Nathan
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Posted : Jun 1, 2006 00:36

Quote:

On 2006-06-01 00:24, Acidhive wrote:
Whoooooeeeee!!! I don't know what you're all talking about but it sure sounds smart!!
(only people that've watched Freakazoid will understand this)




http://www.trifocus.net/~gomploid/misc/freakazoid.gif



was he killed by Lob eventually?
          -=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning=
wicc@


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Posted : Jun 1, 2006 01:24
I summarize my thesis in two statements:
one—the relentless exploitation and destruction of the biosphere by the capitalist-industrial growth machine around the globe is rooted in a pathological
domination complex of "civilized" humans toward the natural world. And two—the revival of interest
in animistic worldviews and in the shamanic practices of traditional peoples, including the intentional
use of hallucinogenic sacraments, is among the hopeful signs that the split between the sacred and
the natural can be healed again.
There is a feeling and perception of access to other non-physical worlds, variously referred
to as inner worlds, spirit worlds, otherworlds, alternate realities. The access may come through
a journey to that world, or the spirit beings of that world may appear in our world, or the usual
boundaries between the worlds seem to become permeable.
shamanic teachings and practices around the globe, primarily those involving non-ordinary states
of consciousness induced by drumming, but also hallucinogens. Studying shamanic practices from
various cultures, including those involving fasting, wilderness vision questing, sweat-lodge and others,
my interest shifted more towards psychoactive or hallucinogenic plants, which have a history of use in
shamanistic societies, rather than the newly discovered powerful drugs, the use of which often
involves unknown risks. In the last few years, I have come to see the revival of interest in shamanism
and sacred plants as part of the world-wide seeking for a renewal of the spiritual relationship with
the natural world.
Sacred and Natural MAGIK
The Magick of Trees
Anything you can imagine, anything you can symbolise, can be made real and produce magical
changes in your environment.
The magical view of self is that it is based on the same random capricious chaos which makes the universe exist and do what it does. The magical self has no centre, it is not a unity but an assemblage of parts, any number of which may temorarily club together and call themselves 'I'. This accords with the observation that our subjective experience consists of our various selves experiencing each other. Free will arises either as an outcome of a dispute between our various selves or as a sudden random creation of a new idea or option. In the magical view of self there is no spirit/matter or mind/body split and the paradoxes of free will and determinism disappear. Some of our acts arise from random choices between conditioned options and some from conditional choices between randomly created options. In practice most of our acts are based on rather complex hierarchical sequences of all four of these mechanisms. As soon as we have acted one of our selves proclaims 'I did that!' so loudly that most of the other selves think they did it too.

:.:.:.: do you beleive.. :.:.:.: :.: ? :.:

:.:.:.: PAGANDREAMDROP :.:.:.:
................................................ Once upon a time there was a small blue-green orb floating in a vast sea of emptiness.................................................... ^*^









wicc@


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Posted : Jun 1, 2006 01:29
[quote]
On 2006-06-01 00:34, ~Paranoia~ wrote:
Magic can forestall death, but it cannot resurrect the dead.
yes in front of our dull eyes..it cannot.
...

:.: pagandreamdrop :.:

:.:.:.: Now what is Magick? Magick is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the Will. How do we achieve this? By exalting the will to the point where it is master of circumstance. And how do we do this? By so ordering every thought, word and act, in such a way that the attention is constantly recalled to the chosen object.
AYALIEN :.:.:.:.:
Acidhive
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Posted : Jun 1, 2006 16:52
Quote:

On 2006-06-01 00:36, Nathan wrote:

Quote:

On 2006-06-01 00:24, Acidhive wrote:
Whoooooeeeee!!! I don't know what you're all talking about but it sure sounds smart!!
(only people that've watched Freakazoid will understand this)




http://www.trifocus.net/~gomploid/misc/freakazoid.gif



was he killed by Lob eventually?




Nope, they just cancelled the show. Bummer, it was one of the funniest cartoons ever in my book.           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
kArO
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 07:46
yes
Gopendragon
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 10:42
believe in magic?
hahahuhahaha
believe in the life I be, you ask?
it is like you asking me if I believe in what I do,haha
nice point here my good friend wicc@the scientist
of magic...
magic is everywhere,and becames natural,psychedelia is magic,trance is magic,ronaldinio is magic,magic johnson was magic,juno reactor is magic,fullmoon is magic,the sun is magic,meditation is magic,dance is magic,entheogenic substances are magic,music is magic,chaotic dark is magic,elves are magic,dragons are magic,nature and the infinite space around the universe is magic,dreams are magic,wizards are magic....life is magic...and the magic list goes on and on....

do you believe on those simple natural things?
YES I DO ,
and I WAS ALWAYS FOR EVER and EVER!!!!!!

          ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
volvox box 2
Infect Insect
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Posted : Jun 4, 2006 01:26
Do you bealive yourself?
pixie satinka
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Posted : Jun 4, 2006 11:30
Quote:

On 2006-06-04 01:26, volvox box 2 wrote:
Do you bealive yourself?




yes n yes i believe in magik...its in ur head...the way u percieve things...luv is magik, sex is magik...dancing, partying, hallucinating...its all magik...
it depends on u whether u wanna c it tht way or not. to me LIFE in itself is magik...its unexpected...full of surprises...twists n turns...but beautiful none the less...enchanting! im amazed at life...i havent seen it all but ive seen quiet a bit n im amazed evryday by people i meet and things i c n things i do!!! its all MAGIK!
boom
The Green Channel
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Posted : Jun 4, 2006 14:16
MagiK occurs just beneath the capacity of our imagination, if we were to expand our imagination we would realize that magik is everywhere.
          "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
piko_bianko
Oxya

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Posted : Jun 4, 2006 16:50
David Blaine is the man.. google him, d/l him           extreme
Gopendragon
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Posted : Jun 4, 2006 18:16
Quote:

On 2006-06-04 01:26, volvox box 2 wrote:
Do you bealive yourself?


you mean if I am true?
or the words I write?
any way yes both ofcourse!!!
do you?
strong autosuggestion in a vision,with strong fantasy to inagine it till you make it real in time and space,is magic.           ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
volvox box 2
Infect Insect
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Posted : Jun 4, 2006 23:48
everyone can find magic when he finds his innerself.
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