rich
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Posted : Mar 8, 2011 21:31
^If only!
I agree with what some one else said. BPMs don't matter to me, what matters is the whole damn thing.
It's just gotta be good (according to my standards, of course, so good luck).
My main issue with 170+ bpm tracks is they keep stopping and doing glitchy shit. I'm from punk rock and speed metal and I want it to pound fast non stop or not pound at all.
I'll now open the floor to questions or suggestions from Jacynth.
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Posted : Mar 8, 2011 23:14
Pretty sure I've never heard a 180+ bpm track that I have danced or would actually have fun dancing to - let alone trancing to. Open to being proved wrong, but that's been my experience sofar
Just too damn fast, I can't sense any groove to it at that speed. Even with acid propulsion I find it too much. If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 00:03
^ Well, what rules are you trying to follow when you dance? 180bpm can be danced to as if it's 90 bpm.
Swim through the beats!
of course, there has to be something in the track that moves you. if it's just sounds of 20 dial-up modems trying to connect there's not much to go on lol
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 02:48
Rules? While dancing?
Disclaimer - some may interpret this as a shitting on fast trance post. It's all just my opinion, so don't take it the wrong way please
IDK how I dance, I assume the majority of it is stomping to the 4/4ness while flailing my limbs around. Sometimes with lights or fire attached to them.
The 'thing that moves you' is indeed the issue I have with it (it being the music I've heard sofar at that tempo- I haven't heard all of it obviously). I like strange sounds, but I also like hypnotic melody, which I find to be damn near absent in the vast, vast majority of trance above the 150 mark. It doesn't have to be fluffy euphoric supersaw eurotrance leads or anything, but the walls of glitch and noise by themselves aren't particularly interesting to me.
I was about to say that "I can't dance to music much above 150 sustainably" but that's not necessarily true - I can't dance to it *the same way* as I dance to the other speeds of trance. If I try to stomp to every kick drum at 180 bpm I will not be able to do it very long at all. I like to dance for hours and hours and trance out, and I just physically can't do it to that speed. The speed takes me out of the trance state and I have to fight to keep up with the music - it becomes more similar to running or intense excercise than dancing *for me*...
Another thing is the swing/groove/shuffle of the tracks - at a certain speed it just all sounds super quantized and uber rigid *to me* - I have tried and I can't produce anything that feels even REMOTELY groovy once I push the sequencer past 155 or so, and I haven't heard it in anyone elses production either.
Then again, I don't go out seeking it, I've no problem with good music at the tempo existing *conceptually*
Maybe if I came from a different background I could appreciate it better...like if I liked breakcore, or gabba, or speed metal...
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 13:02
I am in complete agreement with Demoniac Insomniac and cinderVOMIT.
@Demoniac Insomniac: I have hear 90% percent of the tracks you have mentioned. Big fan of your music. also psykovsky, kindzadza, cosmo, and furious/aerofurious/crazy astronaut, gorrump peyya, fobi, kasatka, kobold instinct, etc.
awesome tracks mentioned.
@cinverVOMIT: nice work on cinder n frenz vol 1.
i agree that music below 170 bmp is not fast enough to utilize all the energy on a trip. dnb ftw also.
also, cosmic energy and cosmic journeys can be experienced with meditation.
BOOM.
Shanti.
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 13:10
also, 180 bpm does not equal to dark psy. i am looking for dark psy that is over that bpm range.
example, unknown lifeforms - kobold instinct.
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 13:17
@ psytones: thanks for the links.
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 16:13
Quote:
On 2011-03-08 21:13, Pavel wrote:
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On 2011-03-08 00:17, Dogon wrote:
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On 2011-03-08 00:13, Jacynth wrote:
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On 2011-03-08 00:09, cinderVOMIT wrote:
and i'm 28....
Why baba?
Jacynth: Are you Pavel?
Jacynth is Moki with brains.
What?
We were born naked & grow up to become wicked.
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 17:06
ok so i'm going to put some of my music up for example of what i dig and create at this range...and being able to keep space and keep it psychedelic.
185bpm
200bpm
198bpm
200bpm
To those that enjoy it : these sounds are all signed and being released on Akashik Records (San Fran, CA) in the near future..for those who don't...that's cool, i'm making it for those that do like it
much love
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 18:06
^^
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Posted : Mar 9, 2011 18:42
ok so i'm going to put some of my music up for example of what i dig and create at this range...and being able to keep space and keep it psychedelic.
185bpm
200bpm
204bpm
198bpm
200bpm
To those that enjoy it : these sounds are all signed and being released on Akashik Records (San Fran, CA) in the near future..for those who don't...that's cool, i'm making it for those that do like it
much love
kriz
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