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Posted : Dec 9, 2010 05:15:05
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Heres the link for the Case of the Ambassadors letters from all over the world.
http://213.251.145.96/cablegate.html
In case u havent heard it, last month hundresds of ambassadors letter were stolen and reveled in the internet containing plots of the dirty work from NWO.
Just another chapter from the conspirancy around the world, stroking the document leaked last year known as Climategate.
  "Many people would like to destroy the thorn and save the flower, but that is not possible. They are part of each other, and both must keep strong to survive."
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Dec 10, 2010 00:55
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I love watching hipocrits fall, and fall hard.
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Posted : Dec 10, 2010 01:13
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The time is coming, the mask are falling.
Think this in no news for some, that this system was build in lies and greed. And now the all the world has a chance to see some real proof!!!
This is not just a "conspiracy" news, its a fact.
The NWO plans are revealing and its no good for us.
We need something new, a Conspiracy in its roots meaning - To breath together - something truth in its value.
Tho, its been one year since Climategate, and nothing has changed, in fact, at least here in Brasil somethings got worse, like taxes.
I wonder, will we see REAL change one day???
"Many people would like to destroy the thorn and save the flower, but that is not possible. They are part of each other, and both must keep strong to survive."
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 10, 2010 04:42
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Great up to dat info here http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates
I'm really proud to be an Aussie and from the same country as Julian, he is a national and global hero.
I'm heading to protest his innocence with many others in my home town later this afternoon our time.
Also want to say I think America, England, Sweden and Australia have acted appallingly in response to these leaks and I hope that they will eventually be punished severely for their lies and hypocritical acts!
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Vermeee
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Posted : Dec 10, 2010 07:57
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nice guys....
i hope pavel doesnt delete this topic... last week i created it and he deleted sayin it contained political stuffs... but i dont agree with it....
its just informative and very important.... but its not takin any political sides...
everyone one that reads it s free to take any conclusion...
just my opinion...
cheers...
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 10, 2010 14:20
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Actually the mere fact that they are releasing Diplomatic cables makes it political, now if you were simply talking about Julian's trumped up sex charges in Sweden then it probably wouldn't get deleted.
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Posted : Dec 10, 2010 22:54
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 00:22
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This topic is not a topic yet. 
It will be very soon, once people actually start discussing something. We can discuss secrecy – then it will become a conspiracy theory topic. Or we can discuss the actual facts that were revealed – then it will become a political topic (and will get closed, most likely). Personally, I would like to discuss the psychological facet of this story. Here is what I mean:
We all like surprises (even people who claim to hate them). And we tend to act surprised even when deep down we are not.
You are arriving home and quietly suspecting that your friends didn’t forget about your birthday. You open the door and everybody yells “Surprise!” You are startled and you act surprised, but wasn’t this what you were hoping for?
You get a call from a hospital. Your son was just admitted with a massive overdose. You are shocked. You would never think your boy was on that path. But seriously, when he comes home every night at 3 a.m. mumbling something to himself and barely making it to bed – you did not suspect anything?
The whole world acts surprised and shocked now. But let’s be honest: did we learn anything truly surprising or shocking here? Was there anything that you read in the last two weeks that made you exclaim: “No way, it cannot possibly be that way!” Was there a moment when you were genuinely surprised because you found out something previously unthinkable – and not because the whole world is acting shocked?
Saudis being wary of Iran? South Korea afraid of its Northern sibling? Fun lovin’ Italian prime minister? Corrupt African dictators?
Holy smokes, I would have never guessed!! 
So, to me, the interesting topic here is not what those leaks told us about the State Department but what they told us about ourselves.
Why is it that everybody seems so shocked?
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Vermeee
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 00:59
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On 2010-12-11 00:22, Maine Coon wrote:
Saudis being wary of Iran? South Korea afraid of its Northern sibling? Fun lovin’ Italian prime minister? Corrupt African dictators?
Holy smokes, I would have never guessed!!
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uhnnn so thats what those wikileaks documents had to offer to u ?
thats nice im glad u didnt find anything new
but i have found a lot of interesting stuff bout the place where i live... and what i found out was :
that the minister of defense from brasil ( nelsom jobim ) had been involved in secret meetings with the minister of defense from US with plans to try to achieve in brazil the war againt ANTI TERRORISM and it was important that brazil unity with US against that war coz US is loosing power and needs support from brazil to tame the western...
also that the same minister had been talkin bad bout all the politic people in brazil who doesnt support that fake act against the fake war of terrorism such as the ITAMARATY ( people in charge of doin the external public relations) and the actual president party ( PT - PARTIDO DOS TRABALHADORES ) callin them ANTI AMERICANS ......
another interestin things are documents where there are secret plans bout makin a new unified economic block here in south america with the countries : brazil, colombia, venezuela, bolivia , equador and chile ....
the excuse for the unification would be economical reasons but in fact the main reason would be that with this block brazil would be able to keep HUGO CHAVEZ and IVO MORALEZ more tamed......
another interestin stuff that i found was documents where politicals from US are making fun from the PRESIDENT LULA bout the COP 15 coz lula didnt t lean on the fake political about global warming ... coz the big countries wanted the whole world to share the bill bout the carbone tax and lula didnt agree with it , sayin those bills bout carbone taxes must be held by those who makes the most pollution in the world... and it was a disapoitment for the US politics coz they had hope that lula would agree with the fake carbone taxes...
another interesting sutffs i have found but now outside the place i live was bout hillary clinton sayin that turky was starting to become a threath to them coz they were makin their relation with the islamic world stronger again so they would have to create reasons to start to poke turkey with the stick....
also i found interestin the president from IRAN sayin very clear that the islamicphobia trendy s held by the ZIONIST regime ( zionist which always were reasons to be told that it was CONSPIRANCY and now we can see big presidents givin names )
well and many many more and i didnt even read 1/10 of those documents...
and i find it funny that the things u said u "learnt" with those documents are the same and ONLY things that the TV in my country are talkin bout those wikileaks documents...
when in fact when u go to read the documents in the internet u see that the main focus aint bout " Saudis being wary of Iran? South Korea afraid of its Northern sibling? Fun lovin’ Italian prime minister? Corrupt African dictators? " as the tv here in brazil are tryin to make people believe...
but im glad that this time the things were different.... even the most systematic masses here in brasil didnt lean on for what the TV was sayin... everybody s really pissed off with those WORLD POTENCIES bout all those lies and conspirancies they run in the background... and even the most sistematic people here in brazil are really pissed off....
when they released the CLIMATEGATE documents last year it stayed in the background and it finished as conspirancy.... but this time those cables documents are bein treated in a different way...
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Full Maya
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 00:59
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clap clap clap...all hail ur intelect
but since u dont know everything about the world...let me share somethings...
not everybody in the world belives in what they see on the internet, and at least here in my country ppl belives in what the tv tells them. And the tv here is saying that this wikileaks site is just another GOSSIP website. Surprised?!
Well, at least im Chocked with the manupulation that has being going aroud this wikileaks stuffs.
But since it has done so much "noise" then climategate, more ppl are having the chance to know such things, and starting to see the world with other eyes.
And I dont think u are following this news, cause "Saudis being wary of Iran? South Korea afraid of its Northern sibling? Fun lovin’ Italian prime minister? Corrupt African dictators?" these things are kinda old, considering what has already being released. Besides its not the news that are surprising its their releasing that is.
These information so called "classified" are being released and its consequences are suprising. Cause WE, never know what can happend.
With this leaks leaders from lots of nacions have facts to banned USA from their list of allys, and this is just ONE exemple.
U see, with this leaks, its possible to make a new arrangement in relacions between countrys...
Now this is surprising!!! And who knows, this can even benefit nations that has being under UN control.
Dont take for granted this news, acts like urs is what keeps our world in this fixed status quo.
"Many people would like to destroy the thorn and save the flower, but that is not possible. They are part of each other, and both must keep strong to survive."
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Vermeee
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 01:22
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With this leaks leaders from lots of nacions have facts to banned USA from their list of allys, and this is just ONE exemple.
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not only US but as venon said all those countries appling to support wikileaks to be banned as England, Sweden and Australia
and also all the countries that have showed disrespect to human rights in those documents INCLUDING US ( again ) UK , the dictators from AFRICA etc etc .....
and imo it would be sad to have this topic deleted when its very informative and interesting and WHEN we have here in link sections ALLOWED TOPICS such as the RAVE GIRLS ... soft porn allowed but politial informative is not ...... just like the tv
i would feel very pissed off if i d find a pic of my wife in that RAVE GIRLS topic....
if i would be opening a toppic in here to write a FARC ENLISTMENT LETTER FOR FOREIGNERS then yea it would be POLITICAL THREATHS but its not..
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 01:52
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but sure , i have to respect the rules of this forum coz i like it very much for a lot of other reasosn but givin the circustanace and relevance of this subject i hope it ll be considered twice otherwise it ll be sad 
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DETOX
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 02:24
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Wikileaks is the most overhyped "espionage" story ever.
The stolen documents from the United States authorities are lowest security class possible and include personal discussions between prime ministers, ministers, embassadors, diplomats, etc etc.
Real top secret material is very very carefuly secured and noone can lay his eyes on it.
The material leaked on Wikileaks is total crap and is as important and informational for the general public as the personal messages that i exchange with Pavel in this forum.
If you care about what Obama said when he met Sarcozi when the French President interupted their meeting to go and find the family rabbit, if you give a damn about Berlusconni sex life discussed by the Italian embassador in Washington or if you are interested in Michelle Bachelet (former president of Chile) and her bad health and problems in her marriage then Wikileaks is ideal for you.
For the rest of us that are interested in serious political discussions and the truth behind the problems of the world Wikileaks is just another misleading instrument used by some people to turn the public's eyes in the wrong directions.
Europe is falling apart at the moment with riots taking place all around and half the countries on the verge of economic destruction and this is the issue that should bother you all and not whether Obama went to the toilet while meeting the Russian president.
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Vermeee
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On 2010-12-11 02:24, DETOX wrote:
For the rest of us that are interested in serious political discussions and the truth behind the problems of the world Wikileaks is just another misleading instrument used by some people to turn the public's eyes in the wrong directions.
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thats something that me and my friends also discussed and you maybe right bout it....( but we are never sure )
but our conclusion bout that would be coz then it would be easier for the big pontencies in the world to achieve a more intensive and BIG dictatorship rules...
now that europe s on riot they would have more reason to achieve such thing...
but i find it very rude of ur self to afirm that the people who dont find wikileaks a missleadin instruments are people who are not really concerned with serious political reasons and truth behind the problems of the world .... it s only ur opinion and judgement and not necessary the truth...
i find wikileaks interesting and even then im concerned with the problems of the world otherwise i would not be wasting my time in here with this topic ....
maybe one day in the future i ll be as important and intelectual informed as u but ATM thats one of the things that are in my reach and since u are so informed instead of throwing rocks u could help us understand whats the real problems of the world...
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DETOX
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 02:59
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At the moment Germany is acting imperialisticly towards the weak european countries (PIGS which stands for Portugal,Ireland,Greece,Spain and Belgium which was added recently in this group) and remember my words its a matter of time before the Germans will quit the Euro Zone not to say the European Union as a whole. What the Germans couldnt do with two world wars they are trying to achieve now by lending money to other countries, money that these countries cant repay which means in some years they will be economically destroyed,actually Greece and Ireland are totally destroyed in every aspect and Portugal and Spain come next in maybe a year or so.
Half of Europe is depending upon Germany at the moment so we already have a dictatorship in our continent.
Expect some heavy riots soon.
P.S Just today Ireland didnt receive the money they expected from the rest of the European countries because of the so called "political unrest" in the country because the people are shouting that they want out of the euro zone and the european union and that they dont want to pay back a penny from these borrowed money.
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