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why psytrance is so slow
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psyman
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Posted : Jun 5, 2003 19:51
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im so interested in this question already for 6 months that ive been here i wonder why is psytrance is not popular in usa while it is in the whole world besides usa ive been to europe and im from israel and psytrance is really a common thing while here people dont even know what is it i dont believe that is because the "12 hours of hard work a day "like synthetic sadhus said in his farwell letter where he explained why he quittes doing parties people all over the world work hard and even harder then in usa..... |
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Demi
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Posted : Jun 5, 2003 22:11
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...because, it is the USA!
lets try changing it or get back to the promised land  
i am obsessed about GOA! that is where the trance lives! 
BOM SHANKAR!!!
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psybertoon
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Posted : Jun 6, 2003 02:50
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well... demi do u travel to goa often? well i have many friends there... i am sure we might know a few common friends... like a friend of mine is touring usa ... dj asad.. he is spinning at the boom tomorrow. u can always go over and say hello ... |
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Demi
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Posted : Jun 6, 2003 08:38
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i have been there for two seasons, but definitely tended 2 get there for a much lOOOnger period ! But, unfortunately, for minimum 1 year i won't be able 2 leave the us border, otherwise... bla bla...
Of course we might know the same ppl from Goa!
i suppose i got in touch with the guy u r talking about. may be we meet in New York soon!
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sage2012
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Posted : Jun 6, 2003 12:30
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this is a really good question... i think that geography is probably the biggest reason. what i mean by that is..
1. americans don't travel abroad as much as people from some other countries do. i think that it is commonly understood that many many israelis have been to goa and were able to bring a lot of that back with them when the trance scene there was was blossoming in the early 90's. the same goes for the many australians, japanese, and europeans (especially the british) that also were on the travellers' circuit @ that time. it was and still is a lot easier to get to india from that side of the globe than it is to from north america... thus america is sort of late in the game on the psy tip.
2. america is one spread out place.. and the population density here is much less than it is in israel, europe, or japan. there are some trance scenes in the big cities here, but on the whole psytrance fans are scattered across hundreds of miles of sparsely populated terrain.
3. the rave scene (especially in the us) has been established here for a very long time. ever since the onset of chicago house and detroit techno, america has had a different view of electronic music than some other parts of the world. people here have grown up on florida breakbeat, club trance, house music of every description imaginable, and most big cites have well established d&b scenes. the majority of the records that turn up from overseas @ stores here are from the uk, and on the whole most record stores here don't use the distibutors that carry psytrance. promoters here book talent that they know will draw a crowd, and since there isn't a lot of recognition when it comes to psy, it often gets overlooked... c'est la vie.
i could probably think of more, but it is way late and i need some sleep..
michael
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psyman
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Posted : Jun 6, 2003 17:40
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im partly agree with you sage but how can you explain the sf scene althouth i never been there i know they have rec companies massive crowd that not only comes to the parties but also creates art music (penta) and its a whole community like it is in the most of the world and you look on the ny scene wich is the second biggest in usa and its really not like that i mean there is 2 or 3 organizing crews that compete and lots of politics in ny the vibe is really not the same i dont talk about miami i leave here and we are practicly starting from the beggining becouse really there is no people here exceptn maybe 10
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dopey576
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Posted : Jun 6, 2003 18:56
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i study in indiana and people here have never heard of psy trance before. most of them are still too hung up on rock and do not consider electronic music as being a creative form of music. there are lots of free spirited people here and i am sure that if a party scene arose the people would embrace it. |
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psyman
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Posted : Jun 6, 2003 21:52
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that is exactly my question WHY its slow in usa and (indiana ) for the example while its so popular in the world and on the other hand why its popular in sf and not in indiana
for instanse big country like brazil psytrance is everywhere and not just rio or sao paolo |
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VertigOA
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Posted : Jun 6, 2003 21:59
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Cause in the USA each different state is almost like a different country
SF and Indana sre two TOTALLY different places with completley different people.
The USA is a giant place with more different cultures and different types of people thant any country in the world. Of course it will be different from state to state. 
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Tentwins
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Posted : Jun 7, 2003 02:40
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Hels
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Posted : Jun 7, 2003 06:53
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Yea...that was an intelligent comment... |
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GhregOnEarth
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Posted : Jun 7, 2003 07:02
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PsyTrance in America?
Most of today's psytrance is musically derived from teutonic and tribal influences. Both of which are anathema to the average Wal Mart shopping, Potato Chip eatin', elvis lovin' fat american.
The rave scene in the states can't relate to anything that doesn't have to do with break dancing and the rest of youth culture, in general, is obsessed with the shallow carcasses of rock and hip hop.
The only hope really that I see in spreading psytrance in the US is to spread it to the goth/industrial communities that haven't been overly tainted by electroclash (goth/industrial music is quite popular as far as subculture goes in the states) or bring it to people that are really into yoga.
my 2 pesos.
oh yeah....and to add....san francisco is a bit of a bubble and resembles, from my perspective, europe and asian more than the suburban wastelands of most american cities. The good vibes are probably just from the harmonic resonance from the san adreas fault line.
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VertigOA
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Posted : Jun 9, 2003 16:30
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On 2003-06-07 02:40, Tentwins wrote:
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Well considering that US has more immigration than all other countries in the
world, this would be true. If you've travled the country as I have you would know that every state can be like different country in itself, and in some cases , like FLorida ,even cities are different. Go to redneck Davie, Florida and tell me that it's not completely different than going to South Beach -
Psyman asked a question and We trying to answer it. This is why psytrance can be popular in one area of the US , say San Fransisco, and not popular in another Tentwins  It has nothing to do with ego. 
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Tentwins
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Posted : Jun 9, 2003 18:17
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After writing my post I was thinking the same thing. I forgot the fact that USA has had immigrants from every part of the world since it was created as a nation.
But how many of those cultures haven't blended in the today's average american culture??
How much do you know of cultural diversity in other countries?? |
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VertigOA
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Posted : Jun 9, 2003 18:32
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im not trying to turn this to a debate or saying there is not diversity in other countries - just saying that there are many cultures in the usa, its a melting pot - lets get off this.
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