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Why is "Israel" so Psy?
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Mahamudra (Sagiv)
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 11:52
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sure dude when kaza was so new or something 
but im talking about a biger audience man...
like no one did a project with one of the bigest rock artists in israel.. no one did a project with the israeli symphony ect.... (exept astral projection... with zehava ben that was a project with a non trance artist) my piont is that in the old days when u ask some one that not involved in the trance scene about trance hes like wot? who? where? oh bOOm bOOm? ... today when u ask some one that not in the trance scene (hard to find some one like that today tho) the first name that will pop in his head will be Infected Mushroom.... well today u can see them on T.V man and u can see them on teenagers magazins such as "Rosh Ehad" or "mariv lanoar" , i dont remember eyal barkan or holyman on the cover of a magazin or on T.V somewhere..... 
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 12:43
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well you got a point there but i think that without the victorius era trance in israel wouldnt have gone so comersaill |
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HandA
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Posted: Apr 23, 2005
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On 2005-04-23 11:42, psy^soldier wrote:
Mahamudra Crew
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but i think that Infected Mushroom reveal that scene to a biger audience ..
i really disagree i think that it was eyal barkan and holy men with the compilation over the sunrise sold about 20000 copies at that time that trance was a bad word
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That sure does not make it better
Before Eyal Baragan the scene was very cool in Israel.. Then it all went downhill with the later mainstream full on supermaket music and the way too fast bpm's and anthem tracks. A sad sad day when Eyal bargan released his kiddy music and spread the disease all over the world - The rest is History - unfortinently.
Just my opinion though... But like it or not that's what happened.Eyal Bargan started it all and later going into today 100's of kids started to copy eachother. The Story of israely trance |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 15:21
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i think you going off topic there is nothing to do with this topic is eyal barkan was good or bad to scene in israel i think we have alot of topics about copy fullon in israel if you have nothin constructive to say dont say it and i know your response bla bla you diss israel people shout at you i can say that i diss israel alot and alot of the time moderator delete my posts but please stick to the topic ! |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 15:24
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one more thing
actully you cant really have somthing intesrting to say beacuse your not from israel so you can really tell us why israel is so into trance do you?
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joeking
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 16:24
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Although I'm not israeli I have many friends from Israel and I think the reason is to do with wanting to escape from something...and the asia travel path after military service.....Many countries/cultures where young people feel alienated or have a particular need for escape tends to have a good psy culture (eg japan). I also find that the reverse is also often true..where people have a comfortable life, immersed in a culture of successful commerce for example, with no want/need of escape, those places tend to lack a psy scene (eg Singapore) |
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HandA
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 17:06
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On 2005-04-23 15:24, psy^soldier wrote:
one more thing
actully you cant really have somthing intesrting to say beacuse your not from israel so you can really tell us why israel is so into trance do you?
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uhhh i get scared of you now..... will you shoot me with your psygun now?
The truth is always not nice
The truth is that Israel once was one of the best party countries both musically and people wise... But no more... How can it be best when all parties are with the same boring music year after year? There's no diversity at all... Hopefully it will come back some day but I seriously doubt it... Too many people in Israel go for the same boring music at parties time after time...
I dont expect all people to agree with me and music taste is of course individual. But no one can claim that the parties have been amazing variated in Israel for a long time. At least not 95%. Of course there have been and are parties that break the rule... But not many.
And no I am not from Israel but.. I do know the israeli party scene from inside out. Of course it can have changed since I was there last but I seriously doubt it. That alone make me qualified to say what i say!
And then back to topic...
As I see it it have all to do with the frustration and situation in Israel... I wont get into Politics but when you live in a high tension area you tend to go a bit more crazy and run wild than people living in areas where there's nothing or very little to worry about...
And back to the original question.. Why Is Israel so spy?
I dont think Israel is that psy anymore... Israel used to be very psy (or at least much more than now)... Psy is of course an individual thing and people tend to see things differnt.. But psy is not the first word that pop to my head when I hear the name Israel and trance |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 17:51
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but i agree with you handa the music coming out of israel is boring about the parties i disagree there is an underground scene in israel acts like freq texas faggot haltya damage alex boshke magnetrix tobayes bayer that were in israel for the last year
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HandA
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 18:18
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On 2005-04-23 17:51, psy^soldier wrote:
but i agree with you handa the music coming out of israel is boring about the parties i disagree there is an underground scene in israel acts like freq texas faggot haltya damage alex boshke magnetrix tobayes bayer that were in israel for the last year
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And that's what i said too. That there are some underground parties taking place. But not that many compared to the overall Israeli scene. You must agree that if you go outside Israel, well if you have gone outside Israel that is , and ask anyone involved in the scene they will have the picture in their minds that Israel = Astix playing at a Public Swimmingpool party for kids under 12, IM, GMS, Raja and similar playing at rave'o'lution part 10, Skazi and yahell playing another USTA gig etc etc.
I know that there's much better things going on in Israel but unfortinently the scene has grown so big that it's kind of eaten itself up. If you get my point?
But still I really sincerely think that Israel lack the psy element. But your not alone. Most countries do these days. But that's just my opinion as one that properly see psy as something very different than the music being made today. No matter where it come from. |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 18:35
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You must agree that if you go outside Israel, well if you have gone outside Israel that is , and ask anyone involved in the scene they will have the picture in their minds that Israel = Astix playing at a Public Swimmingpool party for kids under 12, IM, GMS, Raja and similar playing at rave'o'lution part 10, Skazi and yahell playing another USTA gig etc etc.
i dont expect that someone outside of israel will have any clue about the underground scene in israel beacuse its underground and i really dont care that he will think israel is only astrix and skazi besids my friend is in japan right now he said skazi there is very big there in the trance scene for exmple so its not only israel |
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scraper
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 19:12
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I don't know why you guys say that parties in Israel are not good anymore. if you look harder beyond all the shallow full on festivals, you'll see a major underground scene. with diverse music, great crowd, amazing locations... whatever you're looking for in a good psytrance party. but saying the entire country sucks cause the full on wave took over the mainstream isn't correct in my opinion.
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Mahamudra (Sagiv)
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 19:23
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 20:30
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yes its handa is to blame!:] |
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andrejcid
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Posted : Apr 24, 2005 00:16
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how dare u handa posting your opinions and denying the allmighty ones?!
and no, israel is not 'psy'?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!
maybe trance is more trendy&popular there, as is dnb / idm for the uk etc like phobium said.
other than that, dont think there is anything supernatural or special bout israel(or its ppl) that makes it b more 'psy' than other places.saying the opsosite would b quite a nationalist view of things...unless provided with acceptable, explanatory arguments.
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full_on
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Posted : Apr 24, 2005 01:11
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I think you can learn something here (also using the search can make you really wise):
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/8404/forum/11
http://www.psynews.org/various/goa.htm
http://www.infected-mushroom.de/siteinfo/siteinfo-israel/siteinfo-israel.htm
I also think HandA is wrong putting all Israel's diversity together like if it were all the same (or like most of it were all the same). Not to mention that there are less arrogant ways to express opinions.
Of course what's happening now is very different than what happened 10 years ago: time pass, things change, entropy take it's share.
But there are people (even skeptics like me) that believe AND work to make things go a "little more" the way they think they should be.
And this "little more" makes a big difference.
Respect!
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