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Why exactly is it that we don't hear any new music that resembles the 1995-99 stuff?

traveller
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 17:28
If I would run a label I would sure as hell play some goldies to my signed artists and ask them to produce similar tracks every now and then. Yada yada there's Filteria and a few others but anyways I would love to hear some of the "big" artists going back to the roots every now and then. Should be bloody awesome
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 17:43
maybe because its a different time from then. less people hear that sub genre of trance. the labels don't want to release that kind of music?

or no one really likes to produce that kind of stuff?
traveller
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 17:45
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On 2005-10-14 17:43, Sound Surgeon wrote:
maybe because its a different time from then. less people hear that sub genre of trance. the labels don't want to release that kind of music?

or no one really likes to produce that kind of stuff?




Well whatever the reason.. it's a shame           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
gAN32h
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 17:47
hum.
i think its called evolution. without being cinical!
things moove on, the audience as well...           The fact that no one understands you doesn't make you an artist:.
traveller
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 17:53
Eh do we actually (in general) enjoy the crap they're pushing out these days?           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 17:55
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On 2005-10-14 17:53, traveller wrote:
Eh do we actually (in general) enjoy the crap they're pushing out these days?




well, what about leading the revolution toward nice clean goa sound as YOU like?

traveller
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 17:58
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On 2005-10-14 17:55, Sound Surgeon wrote:

well, what about leading the revolution toward nice clean goa sound as YOU like?





Nah I'm too busy bitchin' about it


By the way

Juno Reactor live last weekend. Now that was a goldie
They're making serious money out of this and still they're so much closer to the origins than like well.. pretty much anyone          "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
Pavel
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 18:47
Didn't you learn anything from Economy classes? They will push you the new boring useless and soul less neo geo porno full-on for the same reason they develop new and powerful multi Giga Hertz'd PC. Cause it's always easier to cover lack of inspiration and novelty with nice looking package.           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Basilisk
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 18:58
Did you all miss the fantastic debut album from Torakka? or how about Uni? There's something new and different while retaining some of the old school vibe.

The big artists are too busy being rock stars
aplz


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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 19:51
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Why exactly is it that we don't hear any new music that resembles the 1995-99 stuff?



Music progresses. If it didn't, I'dont think we'd be sitting here listening to psy/goa because after 15+ years of it, we'd be shit bored of hearing the same thing. Take a look at classical for example. It's gone through medieval, renaissance, baroque, romantic, classical, and modern classical. Whether you like todays sound or not, its gotta change.           Fuck elitism.
robomarket
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 19:59
It's missing a well defined melody.
Ananda Shake had some very melodic stuff in their album but imo if anyone else tries to pull off a similar thing, it will not work.
Willy Wonka
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Posted : Oct 14, 2005 19:59
Psytrance had it's old days when freaks and drug users were joining the scene, now drug users number grow to 95% of psytrance listeners (sorry but even on this forum ppl out of reality from chemicals, clearly seen from text they type).

Drug users want speed music (150+ bpm) cheap groove, cheap melodies, repetitive stuff to make it easy for their complex brains (dunno if they can deal with old Koxbox or Hallucinogen). Ppl love cheesy, non complex and repetitive music. Good example is why ppl like Infected Mushroom's Classical Mushroom more than The Gathering which is gold album imho? It is way cheesier and simplier to mind.

Future of your label, you will join Goa labels (2 of them online now). You will sell 500 copies, after couple of releases you will understand that your outcome is way higher than income label will die.

Drugs = quick non complex music (since your imagination is wide when u use drugs you don't even need complex melodies to hallucinate what normal ppl would never.

Psytrance = made of 95% chemicals.

No progress imho, just degradation of listeners.
Fu Hsi
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Posted : Oct 15, 2005 19:03
There are few replies here I'd like to mention:

Pavel with most excellent and sum up reply ever:

Quote:


Didn't you learn anything from Economy classes? They will push you the new boring useless and soul less neo geo porno full-on for the same reason they develop new and powerful multi Giga Hertz'd PC. Cause it's always easier to cover lack of inspiration and novelty with nice looking package.




and aplz with a reply that explains ( unfortunately ) everything and Traveller after an answer such as this any further questions are just irrelevant

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Music progresses. If it didn't, I'dont think we'd be sitting here listening to psy/goa because after 15+ years of it, we'd be shit bored of hearing the same thing.



And we are totally not bored. Duh

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Take a look at classical for example. It's gone through medieval, renaissance, baroque, romantic, classical, and modern classical. Whether you like todays sound or not, its gotta change.



Well Classical music evolved from one generation of genious composers to another. It has moved from Bach / Hendel in 17th century to Mozart / Beethoven in 18th century to Rachmaninoff / Bizet / Chachaturian / Debussi / Ravel / Chopin and more in 19th century and heeps of others in 20th century.

I would love to hear about comparisons of same quality between lets say Juno Reaktor / Hallucinogen / Total Eclipse / Prana to what we have today - someone NEW to the scene and groundbreaking from lets say last 3 years.

I am waiting


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Pavel
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Posted : Oct 15, 2005 19:08
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On 2005-10-15 19:03, Fu Hsi wrote:

I would love to hear about comparisons of same quality between lets say Juno Reaktor / Hallucinogen / Total Eclipse / Prana to what we have today - someone NEW to the scene and groundbreaking from lets say last 3 years.

I am waiting




I'd mention Sensient. Ok not the same class and lacks in the melodies department but i think he brings lots of novelty into psy trance nowadays.           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
furthur
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Posted : Oct 16, 2005 17:51
Etnoscope's new stuff is comlpetely unique and original           Load Universe into Cannon. Aim at Brain. Fire.

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