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Troll@CrackWhoreModels
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 01:02
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On 2004-08-24 01:39, Ron Lyner wrote:
dont the orginizers invite dj's that they think has a good taste in music and wants him to play his best ?
if the crowd isn't dancing its the problem of the orginizers cause they know what kind of music the dj play.
i think every dj comes to show his style and his personal taste in someway.
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your are absolutly right on that 
if the crowed is not dancing then it must be because the promotors had booked a wrong dj or set him to play at the wrong time
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 08:36
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I remember playing an absolutely dark, tweaked-out, very psychedelic lo-fi set at a party, a while ago.. I was sure everybody was going to love it, because the tunes were so good. unfortunately, everybody pretty much walked away after about 20 minutes into my set, and didn't come back. hehe..
I still mix that kind of stuff into my sets, but I make sure to properly lift the energy level of the party first, to get everybody dancing to stuff that's a bit more accessible, slowly bring it up, and then drop that GOW or Para Halu, or even some Vicious-style funk, and then another, and watch the place go nuts to some of my favorite tunes.
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psypox
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 11:01
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On 2004-08-25 08:36, DiMiTry wrote:
I remember playing an absolutely dark, tweaked-out, very psychedelic lo-fi set at a party, a while ago.. I was sure everybody was going to love it, because the tunes were so good. unfortunately, everybody pretty much walked away after about 20 minutes into my set, and didn't come back. hehe..
I still mix that kind of stuff into my sets, but I make sure to properly lift the energy level of the party first, to get everybody dancing to stuff that's a bit more accessible, slowly bring it up, and then drop that GOW or Para Halu, or even some Vicious-style funk, and then another, and watch the place go nuts to some of my favorite tunes.
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well now i dont spin "dark, tweaked-out, very psychedelic lo-fi" i only spin freaky and funky minimal. thats maybe why you dont play for your self. Ron is minimal man like me too.. you see the connection? maybe thats our problem PPL WANT MINIMAL HAHA! 
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 17:05
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sometimes i wish i was in denmark
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You wanna dance?!...I know a tune...it´s called stick and CUT!!
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psypox
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 00:23
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 01:04
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On 2004-08-17 19:18, DiMiTry wrote:
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| If you DJ just for yourself, why leave the house and play at parties?? for your ego?
you are playing for a crowd of people most of whom are high and sensitive to the music, and you have to lead them with your music into some magical place. so take your Dj mission seriously.
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Yea well.. isn't that another form of Ego?
You go out and get much more Ego playing out loud..
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 06:24
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Yea well.. isn't that another form of Ego?
You go out and get much more Ego playing out loud..
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sure, ego is a part of it, but i think there's a lot more involved. When you DJ, you're creating a state of collective consciousness. To truly guide people through a psychedelic experience, a Dj has to try and overcome his ego, become a vessel for the higher consciousness through music. Or at least that's what my best Djing experiences felt like. it doesn't happen every time, but it would be really nice if it did.
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Pointy
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 09:48
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On 2004-08-26 01:04, -=InfinitEnds=- wrote:
Yea well.. isn't that another form of Ego?
You go out and get much more Ego playing out loud..
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Come on, don't get silly.
Of course you're doing everything you do for yourself somehow. Even Mother Theresa was doing her work for herself, because she liked it and got a good feeling from helping others.
I think it is important, that the DJ has the feeling he has something to give to the people, something he feels it good for them.
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on 2004-08-26 06:24 DiMiTry wrote:
a Dj has to try and overcome his ego, become a vessel for the higher consciousness through music. Or at least that's what my best Djing experiences felt like.
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That's about summing it up! You're DJing the best, when you stop thinking about every track you play, when not only you are guiding people, but you are guided as well. You may call it channeling. |
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 12:12
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| sure, ego is a part of it, but i think there's a lot more involved. When you DJ, you're creating a state of collective consciousness. To truly guide people through a psychedelic experience, a Dj has to try and overcome his ego, become a vessel for the higher consciousness through music. Or at least that's what my best Djing experiences felt like. it doesn't happen every time, but it would be really nice if it did. |
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It's imposible to overcome our ego, it's who we are. always working for ourselfs, and getting more ego from playing to other peoples don't mean that we overcome anything, just that we get much more "reward" for the ego in this manner. i'm sorry but i cannot agree with your philosophy for the way of the DJ, i mean in your words it seems that you agree that it is the ego that drives us to play for other people , but when we do that, we connect to higher reality where altroism rule, and therefore don't work with ego anymore. it's nice to think like that and i thought like that for more than once while dj'ing, but alas after much needed examination on my self preformance in those parties, i found that guiding the people to places that i desire them to go is an everyday human behavior. sure the whole psy-ideal is charming and magik, but it's only a vail that hide much more egocentric being.
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True. I give something and expect something in return, i will never work for no gain.
i guess that when playing, the diffrence from being a good or a bad DJ is how much you "care" for the dancers.
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Pointy
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 14:27
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@ -=InfinitEnds=-
Guiding people and getting people to go where you want is quite a different thing in my view.
Imagine a group of friends arriving in the himalayan mountains for the first time. One of them sees a plateau somewhere up there and with his strong ego he get's the other's to follow him on his way to the plateau. That is quite dangerous and they might get lost, or end up in some gorge.
A guide is somebody who knows the way already, who knows about places to rest on the way and dangerous bits of the path.
A guide is somebody whom you can trust, that he will bring you safely 'there and back again'.
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Pointy
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 15:58
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on 2004-08-26 12:12 -=InfinitEnds=- wrote:
It's imposible to overcome our ego, it's who we are
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That's not true!
Your ego is defined by what you are thinking you are.
What you are is called "self". The self is defined by the conscious part (ego), the unconscious part and the 'hardware' (brain, nervoussystem etc) of your being.
You can overcome your ego, you can't overcome the self! |
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 16:07
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| Guiding people and getting people to go where you want is quite a different thing in my view.
Imagine a group of friends arriving in the himalayan mountains for the first time. One of them sees a plateau somewhere up there and with his strong ego he get's the other's to follow him on his way to the plateau. That is quite dangerous and they might get lost, or end up in some gorge.
A guide is somebody who knows the way already, who knows about places to rest on the way and dangerous bits of the path.
A guide is somebody whom you can trust, that he will bring you safely 'there and back again'. |
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"With great power comes great responsibility" (Spiderman_themovie) 
The thing is, that if a bunch of people going to the Himalayan Mountains with no useful and resourceful guide , they are just idiots. If they decide to listen to one of the group for directions and he don't have a clue where to go , but "feels like guiding them anyway because he thinks he's special" then they prolly will go to their doom , becuase they evolved beyond stupidity at this point.
What i'm trying to say is that anyone with even the slightest intrest to music can Dj, and if he is doing a great set, well..boom on him, but if he has no idea on how to please the crowd , they might just throw bottles at him and remove him from his statues. because he don't bring them any pleasure. so you can't trust even the best of "guides" for example , there was a Gms party which i remember back in the dayz when they were fresh and exciting, and we got to the party with such high expectations, because we so trusted that "guides" to take us on a magikal trip, but the music was horrible, with no mixing directions. it's like Gms didn't even cared for the crowd , just made it for the money...
anyway this post is getting out of hand so i'll stop here, i hope you got my view of things
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Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 16:12
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That's why in this world are good Dj's and bad ones .....
The point is to choose right Dj to listen to and not shit about those who you don't like ............
Less phylosophy can save you from this kind of posts and troubles in the life ...........
there are normal human and phylosophs who think different and too much to have normal life ........... |
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 16:21
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What you are is called "self" |
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Ego=self they are the exact same thing
Always keep looking for that one thing you will never find. |
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Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 26, 2004 16:24
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They are is what they are real .
Ego is what person think he is good in something and Trying to show others by not prooving the fact action . |
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