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What Program Do You Psy Producers Use?
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iNexus
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Posted : Jul 15, 2009 20:21
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lol 
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Medea
Aedem/Medea
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Posted : Jul 15, 2009 20:41
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For Reaper users...
check out the color theme i made for it - http://stash.reaper.fm/theme/378/Aedem.zip
about workflow... dunno, everything just works, i'm so got used to it. And yes, no difference between audio, midi, folders etc. is the main advantage i think. I even forgot that in ither daws you have to think about what type of track are you going to add now 
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shellbound
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Posted : Jul 15, 2009 21:00
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On 2009-07-14 20:11, psysage wrote:
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On 2009-07-14 13:20, Obelizk wrote:
I don't understand why Reaper has supposedly better workflow.
Care to explain?
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It comes down to hotkeys and (lack of) mouse tools. Cubase is sprawling with UI buttons and different mouse tools, it really slows down the editing process to have to change them or move the mouse to a button. Reaper looks sparse and feature lacking when you first open it, but it has all of the same functionality in the hotkeys. Here is how I have my hotkeys setup:
CTRL+left mouse drag>draw a midi item in the sequencer (draws and loops an audio/midi item if one is selected, creates a copy of an item if you ctrl+left drag on an item)
left mouse drag(edge of item): Loops audio/midi item.
right mouse drag> Marquee selection
s>split item at time cursor
d>show automation for selected track
shift+d>toggle automation lanes or overlapped automation
alt+d>show/hide the docker(contains the mixer, file browser, etc...)
f>maximize selected audio/midi item to the size of the screen
g>glue selected item(s)
w>show "MIDI Control" for selected track
e>toggle inline Midi editor
r>toggles looped playback
Those are the editing tasks I use 99% of the time, you can see I have them all mapped to keys on the left side of the keyboard, which means my right hand never leaves the mouse, and I can access any editing function I need by hitting a single key on the left side of the keyboard.
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That's cool and all, but everything you wrote here can be done in Cubase. In C5 if you right-click the mouse anywhere in the sequencer windo, you get the little menu for the select/draw/cut/glue etc, so you don't have to move your mouse to the top of the screen to change this (and of course you can simply hit/assign 1, 2, 3, 4... to do the same). if you do ctrl+rightclick, you get the deep menu with all the processing/editing/project stuff.
although from the way you describe it, it almost seems like you can do mouse-gestures in Reaper. that's kind of cool, although i can image this getting kind of messy when you have tons of notes/lanes on the screen and stuff would probably get accidentally moved around while you are doing the gestures (not the same as doing navigation in Firefox). maybe i misunderstood...
anyway, personally, C5 FTW, but at this point, there's not that much of a difference between them all, as they are all very powerful and capable. whatever you get on the best with...
https://soundcloud.com/dead-end-dance
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psysage
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Posted : Jul 15, 2009 21:36
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On 2009-07-15 21:00, septa wrote:
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On 2009-07-14 20:11, psysage wrote:
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On 2009-07-14 13:20, Obelizk wrote:
I don't understand why Reaper has supposedly better workflow.
Care to explain?
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It comes down to hotkeys and (lack of) mouse tools. Cubase is sprawling with UI buttons and different mouse tools, it really slows down the editing process to have to change them or move the mouse to a button. Reaper looks sparse and feature lacking when you first open it, but it has all of the same functionality in the hotkeys. Here is how I have my hotkeys setup:
CTRL+left mouse drag>draw a midi item in the sequencer (draws and loops an audio/midi item if one is selected, creates a copy of an item if you ctrl+left drag on an item)
left mouse drag(edge of item): Loops audio/midi item.
right mouse drag> Marquee selection
s>split item at time cursor
d>show automation for selected track
shift+d>toggle automation lanes or overlapped automation
alt+d>show/hide the docker(contains the mixer, file browser, etc...)
f>maximize selected audio/midi item to the size of the screen
g>glue selected item(s)
w>show "MIDI Control" for selected track
e>toggle inline Midi editor
r>toggles looped playback
Those are the editing tasks I use 99% of the time, you can see I have them all mapped to keys on the left side of the keyboard, which means my right hand never leaves the mouse, and I can access any editing function I need by hitting a single key on the left side of the keyboard.
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That's cool and all, but everything you wrote here can be done in Cubase. In C5 if you right-click the mouse anywhere in the sequencer windo, you get the little menu for the select/draw/cut/glue etc, so you don't have to move your mouse to the top of the screen to change this (and of course you can simply hit/assign 1, 2, 3, 4... to do the same). if you do ctrl+rightclick, you get the deep menu with all the processing/editing/project stuff.
although from the way you describe it, it almost seems like you can do mouse-gestures in Reaper. that's kind of cool, although i can image this getting kind of messy when you have tons of notes/lanes on the screen and stuff would probably get accidentally moved around while you are doing the gestures (not the same as doing navigation in Firefox). maybe i misunderstood...
anyway, personally, C5 FTW, but at this point, there's not that much of a difference between them all, as they are all very powerful and capable. whatever you get on the best with...
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That takes much longer to right-click and select something from the context menu, whereas once you get used to the hotkeys, an idea takes about 1 millisecond to go from brain to sequencer. It's going to be a tad awkward at first if you're not used to it, but once you are used to it, you'll realize how cumbersome all of that right-clicking really is. Reaper feels more like a musical instrument than a piece of software, you don't think about it, it just becomes an extension of your hands. In Reaper it is possible to export hotkey mappings, if anybody is interested, I'll upload mine.
PS: I was a Cubase user before I was a Reaper user |
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shellbound
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jul 15, 2009 21:40
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but i didn't say anything about shortcuts vs mouse clicks. i was strictly talking about the mouse clicks. the keyboard hotkeys are still there and you can assign tons of stuff to them. i think i once printed out all the things you can assign hotkeys to and it was 8 or 9 double-sided pages long.
but tell me more about the mouse-gesture functionality, if i understood that correctly. what else can you do with it?
https://soundcloud.com/dead-end-dance
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Obelizk
Amoeba
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Posted : Jul 15, 2009 22:18
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psysage
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Posted : Jul 15, 2009 23:34
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but tell me more about the mouse-gesture functionality, if i understood that correctly. what else can you do with it?
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Basically, they have this thing called the "Action List", which contains a huge number of possible editing actions, and you can assign any of them to any key(or mouse button/key combo), OR... you can create a hotkey macro, and assign any number of actions to a single key, where it will perform each action in the order that you want them to, as many actions as you want.
Also, whereas Cubase has a mouse-tool for timestretching, for example, Reaper uses Alt+Drag instead. Reaper relies on the modifier keys(CTRL/ALT/SHIFT) and either right or left mouse-button drag to replace all of the various mouse tools in Cubase. It's less intuitive at first, but much faster to use once you are used to it.
Another important editing function I use is regions, you can press shift+R to create a region marker for the time selection, then ctrl+drag the region marker to duplicate all audio+midi items on all tracks, and all automation. It inserts the region where you drag it to, and moves everything in front of it to make room, which makes it very easy to add things to the beginning of the project if you decide to lengthen the intro, etc...
Also, Reaper has far superior CPU performance to Cubase(or anything else), there's plenty of benchmarks out there that show this. There's an option I use to disable processing on tracks that aren't active, which means that if I have 100 tracks each with 10 VST FX on them, only the tracks with active parts will be processed and use CPU power. Even in the heaviest of projects, I never exceed 30% CPU useage on my Phenom II 940. As of the last time I used Cubase(SX3), it would waste CPU by processing VST FX on tracks that weren't active, I don't know if they've improved it since then... |
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realtime
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Posted : Jul 16, 2009 04:07
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Urucubaca
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Posted : Jul 16, 2009 18:29
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rob-ot
M-Field
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Posted : Jul 16, 2009 23:07
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Gosh, so few Logic users it seems. Most likely due to the cost of Apple hardware.
Though i've heard of people successfuly producing in Logic on a Hackintosh.
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iNexus
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Posted : Jul 17, 2009 18:52
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On 2009-07-16 23:07, rob-ot wrote:
Gosh, so few Logic users it seems. Most likely due to the cost of Apple hardware.
Though i've heard of people successfuly producing in Logic on a Hackintosh.
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L o L
Good one.
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rob-ot
M-Field
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Posted : Jul 19, 2009 22:08
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Hehe...Lol on the word Hackintosh (which I love), or the fact that anyone has been successful making music in logic on one?
FYI for those confused: Hackintosh is any general intel computer originally designed for windows (Dell, Acer, made from scratch, etc..) where someone is successfully running the Mac operating system, OS X, on it.
Apple does not allow this, and has code in the kernel of OS X that detects what hardware the OS is running on. People have circumvented this.
Problem is, if you can get a sucessful install, getting devices to work (drives, video, sound) can take some real work.
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psysage
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Posted : Jul 19, 2009 23:03
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On 2009-07-19 22:08, rob-ot wrote:
Hackintosh is any general intel computer...
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They actually have a project that can turn an AMD Phenom II computer into a hackintosh called "iDeneb"... Of course, all of the cool kids(like me) are running Reaper in Linux
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Psymon_CH
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Posted : Jul 21, 2009 14:12
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Cubase sx 3 |
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DJ_PSYNYDE
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Posted : Jul 21, 2009 18:53
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Ableton Ableton and Ableton and sometimes FL 8 to make FX....Learning Cubase Ver. 4....
i prefer to be invisible .... on my chat account .... |
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