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What makes SA Trance distinctive?

AgentO


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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 12:36
I've been wondering whether there is anything different about the music being made in South Africa... what do you think? And, if there is something distinctive, what's the reason?
I don't think many of the SA producers have tapped into the vein of local African culture, though Shift's Zinkwazi springs to mind... do you think SA trance could benefit from this kind of cross-pollination?
ApsyDrop
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 12:12
Yeah...
I figure the same thing dude...

I'd dig to hear more distinctive south african psytrance with an african tribal flavour to it... but still keeping it nice and deep and dark...

Otherwise.. I don't think there's much of a distinct south african sound ... especially now.... because everybody is trying to produce music that sounds "international" .... so that local flavour is being lost even before it has evolved into existence.

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Lauryn
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 02:25
Its all about that deep dark funky sound....no one does it better than the south africans
Surrender
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 07:06
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On 2004-03-18 02:25, Lauryn wrote:
Its all about that deep dark funky sound....no one does it better than the south africans



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psilocybe
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 10:10
hmm considering its all about fullon fullon fullon nowadays, the SA is all about that as well, so not as distnct as it could be at the mo, its kinda riding the international wave trend at the mo...
ApsyDrop
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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 12:24
yeah.. i agree with you .. psilocybe...

a lot of SA artists are definitely latching onto international sounds.... unfortunately.

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shift
Shift

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Posted : Mar 18, 2004 21:23
money talks
ApsyDrop
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Posted : Mar 19, 2004 15:12
yeah.. unfortunately.....

but where has art been sacrificed to......?           Mind my mind.
AgentO


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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 14:19
check out this discussion:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/32355/forum/1

maybe it's time for some afrikaans/xhosa/zulu etc samples...

even better, if someone could get hold of some Khoisan 'click' langauge samples, that would be brilliant...

even if SA producers aren't interested in using African sounds, some African samples could provide local flavour...
Hi-T


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Posted : Mar 21, 2004 19:22
yeah, talk is cheap...

ps. agento, love that khoisan click idea!!
GEM_37
Cold Project

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Posted : Mar 24, 2004 15:05
so shift ur telling me ur a sellout and just in it for the dosh ????? just wondering ... i find your comment strange ...

to the rest ... i think SA have followed the fullon trend... but they do have a distinctive sound none the less . they have distorted it to the sounds you hear now... have a listen to the timecode releases. I now hear that same sound coming out of Israel..... we are the fullon front runners finish and klaar.

pitty i preffer proggy and techy stuff.. could have cashed in on the whole thing hey shift
GEM_37
Cold Project

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Posted : Mar 24, 2004 19:42
No seriouse though shit ... are u only in it for the dosh?????

i hope not.......
mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Mar 25, 2004 00:30
I don't think that it is neccesarily like what you guys are thinking.... The fact of the matter is that the current market for most psychedelic trance is stuff that is "full On" As for the "international sound" I tend to disagree... French psytrance has a distinct sound to it as does German, or Danish, or South African... All it seems that you are focusing on is the subgenre, rather than the feel of the music... South African psy has a grittier feel in it's production, as opposed to the Israeli sound which sounds "polished" and sometimes almost too clean. On one hand I do agree that hearing some location specific sounds according to where the producer is from, but wouldn't that be almost "cliche"? I live in California, should I put a gangsta rap breakdown in a dark psy track??? Yeah, it might sound cool, but jeez... it's almost a cheap plug. I feel that psytrance transcends all barriers, whether they are racial, geographical, logical, emotional, spiritual, or whatever... So put South African drums in your track, but only if you want to, not because you live there....

And on a personal note, you make music so other people can enjoy it as well as yourself, but you kinda are at the mercy of the crowd as an artist. You can make the most unique music anyone has heard, but unless you can release your music yourself and are independently wealthy, no one will ever hear it.... Like it or not, art isn't just art, it can be a carreer... And unlike most jobs where you get paid for your time, you get paid for your product. THERE IS NO MONEY IN BEING A PRODUCER!!! You won't end up with massive amounts of bling bling because you write psytrance. So Shift hasn't sold out, he's just writing stuff he loves and paying his bills with it. Honestly, that all any artist can wish for.           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Dragongurl
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Posted : Mar 25, 2004 08:09
I 100% agree with ya mubali           :: Life can be as bitter as dragon tears
But whether dragon tears are bitter or sweet
depends entirely on how each man perceives the taste ::
psilocybe
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Posted : Mar 25, 2004 10:33
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On 2004-03-25 00:30, mubali wrote:
THERE IS NO MONEY IN BEING A PRODUCER!!!



really? so two houses in cape town doesnt mean u've made it financially? i dont think so...
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