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EYB
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 23:11
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Kruger and Coyle are psychedelic progressive?
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Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 23:54
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On 2004-08-29 23:11, EYB wrote:
Kruger and Coyle are psychedelic progressive?
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past psychedelic , now progressive
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dNETv2
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 07:36
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On 2004-08-29 10:07, Xazy wrote:
nice
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On 2004-08-25 16:00, dNETv2 wrote:
Best bet is keep listening to the older style, which is what I do. New psy is pathetic and low in quality (musically, and emotionally).
You'll never win this fight as the newb's of the scene have taken over, and sold psy out to the no brainer quick fix dance track esctasy crowd.
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HEY FUCK FACE how old are you, I bet you don't have hair with your balls still !!!
who are you to come in here screaming "New psy is pathetic and low in quality (musically, and emotionally). ""
how the fuck could you know whats happening from behind a screen you ALL bla bla bla bla bla
bad bad energies all the time generelising all the fucking time ... you will fit better in a hip hop scene !!!
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I can assure you that I'm much older than you, considering your immature post.
Generalizing? I think MOST psy is generalized in this era, and that's what I feel is pathetic.
Why do I even waste my time with guys like you... Forget it. You'll figure it out, maybe. |
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EYB
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 07:46
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'Yes the crowd, they all take ecstasy and listen to shit newbies music, which is all in low quality.
But the older style is only good quality and made by born pros, they were never newbes.'
Sounds very generalizing!
What do u mean psy is generalized?
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Pointy
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 10:22
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On 2004-08-25 16:00, dNETv2 wrote:
You'll never win this fight as the newb's of the scene have taken over, and sold psy out to the no brainer quick fix dance track esctasy crowd.
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It does sound a bit harsh,I mainly agree with dNETv2 though.
But you can't blame the "newb's" for that. It's a problem of trance music getting 'big'.
When I got into it '94, the majority of the people saw in the trance culture more than just music. There was a feeling of creating something different from the consumption society we were living in. The vibe was so strong, people really believed they will make a change in this material world. The whole thing was new and exciting and there was a lot of talk about spirituality, many people were reading books like "The tenth inside" and stuff like that.
New people comeing into the trance scene were feeling this energy and the people being involved for longer were eager to tell the new ones about the philosophy and ideas behind the trance culture,'initiated' the newbies.
When trance got big, it suddenly was more new people comeing, than there was 'old' ones and these couldn't keep up with the 'initiations'.
Suddenly the people who were connecting trance music to a philosophy, were a minority and the 'vibe' got less strong and the sounds were not so new and exciting anymore.
The newbies have taken over....
Just let them do their thing....
Make small parties, where the majority of the people share your ideas and start spreading 'the good old vibe' from there again.
If you are giving up on what you believe is right, than the only one to blame is yourself.
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Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 12:25
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Secrets can't be kept for ages ..... that why and not newbies ..... |
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 14:59
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Pointy, let´s connect!
where´re you from in germany?
i live in the very southwest in freiburg.
i think we have exactly the same ideas!
let the newbies do their thing and let´s do our own crazy underground parties with initiated and ambitious people following the whole philosophy and spiritualism of psychedelic culture.
this in the postmodern era. everything splits up into radical pluralism. no need to try to unite what is not compatible.
i would change PLUR into PLDR
(not peace, love unity and respect BUT peace, love DIVERSITY and respect)
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dNETv2
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 15:30
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On 2004-08-30 07:46, EYB wrote:
'Yes the crowd, they all take ecstasy and listen to shit newbies music, which is all in low quality.
But the older style is only good quality and made by born pros, they were never newbes.'
Sounds very generalizing!
What do u mean psy is generalized?
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Gerneralized as in everybody wants 'that' sound, therefor lacking in creativity... Stuck in formula, therefor using it till will all start puking cause we are so damn sick of hearing the same thing track after track.
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You'll never win this fight as the newb's of the scene have taken over, and sold psy out to the no brainer quick fix dance track esctasy crowd.
It does sound a bit harsh,I mainly agree with dNETv2 though.
But you can't blame the "newb's" for that. It's a problem of trance music getting 'big'. |
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Point taken, but you must remember why psy is getting 'big'. They are altering their sound to appeal to a different crowd. Simplifing the complexity of psy for the 'modern' clubber.
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Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 15:46
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I must mention one thing i think about newbies
I do agree that there is no more inspiration , only money and fame want (as in most of music styles)
But sound design , complexity of grooves and many other factors increase in past years ......
and plase do not compare me Gamma Goblins II to some Exaile track ...coz i talk in avarage level is much increased .....
just two cents to protect newbies .....
We generalizing everything in our life(races ,religions , social status , sexual status , economical status) and if you all use logo "stop generalizing" it shows that you learned new logo but nothing more
Generalizing is the avarage of something
but you must to know use it not on bad purpose coz we can't say that "all fullon listeneres do not understand in music take extasy and jump around "...... allways will be those who not fit you in avarage definition so it will became abyssive esay ....
let's face it the only music that remind these days old time goa aqnd psy is fullon and not psychedelic progressive , minimal , tech trance or dark psy.....fullon is only thing that remind old music so we will fight against it to brake the scene to pieces more ?
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EYB
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 16:10
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If u want change something with psytrance, u have to get more newbies than now.
This keep it underground, not for newbies and stuff is absolutly bullshit, and people who believe in this haven't seen the light of trance yet.
peace
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Pointy
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 16:25
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dNETv2 wrote:
They are altering their sound to appeal to a different crowd. Simplifing the complexity of psy for the 'modern' clubber.
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Totally agree!
And "they" means many, maybe most  of those people putting their music out these days.
But (I know I am terrible...) as there are still people keeping 'trance as a way of looking at life' alive, there are still people making good quality psy. |
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dNETv2
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 16:29
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I'm not really complaining. I just have choosen not include myself in modern trance. I just got mixed into the conversation some reason.
EYB... Every post I've seen of your is so narrow. It seems you miss the point in every thread, and slam your opinion like there is no other way. Lighten up.
Light of trance? I think us older folks who have been listening to goa / psy for years now have seen the light years ago. The new light does not interest us. So, respect that. |
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Pointy
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 16:32
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ah and Sektor, I don't know what you call 'full on' and the definitions of people are quite different, but what I call 'full on' doesn't remind me of what I call 'old time goa'. It is much too polished and boring to my ears.  |
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EYB
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 16:44
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On 2004-08-30 16:29, dNETv2 wrote:
I'm not really complaining. I just have choosen not include myself in modern trance. I just got mixed into the conversation some reason.
EYB... Every post I've seen of your is so narrow. It seems you miss the point in every thread, and slam your opinion like there is no other way. Lighten up.
Light of trance? I think us older folks who have been listening to goa / psy for years now have seen the light years ago. The new light does not interest us. So, respect that.
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My post are narrow? Better read them again, i think it is more narrow to say that most producers are newbies producing for extasy addicted psytrance newbies. This is really narrow.
How old are you, that you call yourself olderone? And what does it indicates?
I never said that my view of the world is the right one, or that you should overtake it, but for me it seems right.
I respect that you don't like modern trance and don't want to listen to it, but you should respect that it is for most people great sound. And respect that a lot new stuff is more high quality than old stuff.
And respect people who like to listen it at parties, if they there are first time or if they are going to parties for years.
So better think before write that all my posts are narrow coz gerneralizing how you did in your posts is really narrow.
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EYB
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Posted : Aug 30, 2004 16:46
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On 2004-08-30 16:32, Pointy wrote:
ah and Sektor, I don't know what you call 'full on' and the definitions of people are quite different, but what I call 'full on' doesn't remind me of what I call 'old time goa'. It is much too polished and boring to my ears.
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No it rocks, it isn't boring, most full on is great.
Lot of old goa is boring, and bad produced.
U see all a matter of taste
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