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Warning ! Uninspired Psyshit all around us

duodenumz
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Aug 27, 2004 22:50
"Vision and Canedy has nothing to do with Psychedelic Trance it is Progressive House ......"

Exactly. It's not fair to fans of the old GOA sound when you throw the high quality of progressive releases in their faces. The prog scene is FAR different from the old screaming melodic acid psy that many people started with, and you can't expect these people to love prog just because it has some great releases.

Personally, I LOVE the progressive sound. To me, "psychedelic" has come to mean "deep" rather than "crazy".

I just want music that engages my mind and then my feet, with lots of tribal elements, syncopation, smart melodies, and well-produced basslines. I don't care about screaming leads any more, or candy-kid rapid-fire basslines.

I think the REAL problem with the psytrance scene is that people have forgotton how to appreciate music. Everyone is always looking ahead 6 months to the next BIG THING, when there is already enough excellent music RIGHT NOW.

Play old stuff. Play new stuff. Play your own damn stuff. Hell, play tracks that aren't even part of the psy scene!! Just do something other than moan about how all the music you steal fails to live up to your romantic memories of the past.
Sektor666
Inactive User

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Posts :  439
Posted : Aug 27, 2004 23:19
I think Yaniv from Hadshot do not connected to psychedelic scene anymore with last Hadshot releases....... wish them luck .................

What we need more variety in Psychedelic scene

for example now we have

Dark Psychedelic 20% (Kindzadza , Osom , Psycho Micro......)
Finish Funk 5% (Tsabeat, Sattle Battle.....)
Fullon 60% (Skazi , Astrix , Gms....... and their clones)
Psychedelic Techno 1%(Midi Miliz+X-Dreams gang , Nuclear Ramjet....)
Psychedelic Minimal 1% (Sensient , Cujirious One , Front Minimale....)
Psychedelic Chillout 1%(OTT , Shpongle , Violet Vision.....)
Psychedelic Progressive 7%(Atmos , Son Kite , Ticon.............)


i think we need more style ...... less strong fullon .... and unite all to psychedelic .....

unity from label to become bigger and more qualited

more stuff been released and it is hard to find goof one from it coz it's alot and mostly the same

For Example why there are D.Drum , G+ , Boshke Beatz and Nova Tekk while all of them release the same music ?
why not to unite to one big psyshdelic techno label

label managers and crew you only ones who responsible for low quality and great quantity of growing shit scene .......

fuck you all ... every kiddo opens label and every kiddo produce and then we will go fucking down and down ...fullon will be mainstream like house , more commercial and less psychedelic in some countries and rest will die fucking die.....
YaManjA


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Posts :  89
Posted : Aug 28, 2004 00:57
Quote:

On 2004-08-27 22:50, duodenumz wrote:
"Vision and Canedy has nothing to do with Psychedelic Trance it is Progressive House ......"

Exactly. It's not fair to fans of the old GOA sound when you throw the high quality of progressive releases in their faces. The prog scene is FAR different from the old screaming melodic acid psy that many people started with, and you can't expect these people to love prog just because it has some great releases.






this is the thing mate!!!
great words great thinking...
hope sektor will listen to that!

Sektor666
Inactive User

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Posts :  439
Posted : Aug 28, 2004 01:33
Jesus Christ

Yamanja he force my words ....

I meant that Vision and Canedy is prog house so we can't compare it to psytrance ....
YaManjA


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Posts :  89
Posted : Aug 28, 2004 16:12
so why?!?!?
why u pm me that i need to listen this artist u talk with psytrance fan!!!
and the compliments was about the part 2 of
his words...
i think that u need to try to understand other words exept yours!!!
stop to convince ppl to listen what u want u dont understand that...this is the flowing and if they come to the moment that they listen to vision or what else so they listen but pls...statistics from wher u come from the international trance faculty?!?!
i think your attitude is so negative...
its true that the mainstream is here and we have kiddo that do this and that but if i'm not wrong we also start when we was kiddo...
new age come and instead of us learn them how to do what they want we try to show them how much negative we may be when i'm was a kidd i learn to love all to respaect all...

maybe ther is some ppl that think they know shit about etic...trance culture but they also have opinion so we need to be considerate....
-=InfinitEnds=-


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Posts :  26
Posted : Aug 28, 2004 16:19
Is this Vision and Candy any good?
          Always keep looking for that one thing you will never find.
YaManjA


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Posts :  89
Posted : Aug 28, 2004 16:39
i hope that they will be....
deejayridoo
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  309
Posted : Aug 28, 2004 17:10
just don´t go to the parties where they play music you don´t like and organize your own underground parties.

why is everybody so exageratedly looking 4 new releases. there are plenty of old releases that can be used again or music from other scenes (AS LONG AS IT IS PSYCHEDELIC!!!)

this runnig after the very freshest music all the time is part of the problem, cause this way too much money comes in and the labels and artists get under strong pressure to finish their creative work "till next week"...

fuck commercialisation and industry.
on the other hand there
IS SOME VERY GOOD MUSIC AROUND THESE DAYS ALSO.
you just have to fin it.

hahahahahahahaha

and there you can recognize who really spends lots of his/ her energy and devotion to music, cause YOU CAN RECOGNIZE A MUSICIAN/ DJ WHO REALLY IS INTO IT.
not as 7-10 years ago when every dj got the same vinyls because there were so few releases.
the mass of "fetish djs" who just collect everthing they get as long as it is NEW don´t develop a true style and aura!
Xazy


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Posts :  37
Posted : Aug 29, 2004 10:07
nice
Quote:

On 2004-08-25 16:00, dNETv2 wrote:
Best bet is keep listening to the older style, which is what I do. New psy is pathetic and low in quality (musically, and emotionally).

You'll never win this fight as the newb's of the scene have taken over, and sold psy out to the no brainer quick fix dance track esctasy crowd.

HEY FUCK FACE how old are you, I bet you don't have hair with your balls still !!!

who are you to come in here screaming "New psy is pathetic and low in quality (musically, and emotionally). ""

how the fuck could you know whats happening from behind a screen you ALL bla bla bla bla bla
bad bad energies all the time generelising all the fucking time ... you will fit better in a hip hop scene !!!

          get your fluffy stuff out from here !!!!
Sektor666
Inactive User

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Posts :  439
Posted : Aug 29, 2004 10:41
lol , then me is the agressive agressive ......

Are you from Guenea Bessau ? not ! but it seems so

ok

i'm 22 years old(i have hair on balls since 15-16 , if you so intrested in pubic hair subject i can send you samples of mine to define) . i have many older than me friend who think the same way as this poor guy that won you attention .......

next time reconsider you arguments because we all seems heroes behind the screen but some of us have the power not to swear online ..... you attitude online and net language sure shows that you have different size balls and deep hole between them (w/o hair) .......

he think that way it's not you problem .....

stop the fuck fighting over shit subject ....

you all must have one point form this thread that there is much more music that it was when artists were "inspired" by LSD and other psychiactive drugs but today there is a quality loss in avarage but you still can find good music if you know to search well....

think also about that .... meny melodies were used , many styles and different track layouts were used in past scene is big now so ppl remove things that used in the past and try to build something new based on past expirience .....

then think about this music in 95'(when i started to listen to it)-99' was new and fresh that's why we all though it cool now it is mainstream so nobody gives a fuck ....


then think about nostalgy ,,,all human races have this kind .... so maybe it's just a nostalgy to all it was



buttom line

ban this mofo see how he talking to this guy ....
Trip-
IsraTrance Team

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Posts :  3239
Posted : Aug 29, 2004 11:09
xazy...
a person who is talking about age and balls hair at the same - mind your language....

why are you being negative and agressive? And you make it look like it's something personal - the guy wasn't pointing his words at ya.

and I think he's more or less correct.

          Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
Fu Hsi
Perfect Stranger

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Posts :  235
Posted : Aug 29, 2004 12:30
I personally dont understand how person like xazy still stays in this community and not banned for a very long time.

Moderators, u don't want ppl like these in your forum or do u? Or all of u went to Boom fest?           http://perfectlystrange.com
Sektor666
Inactive User

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Posts :  439
Posted : Aug 29, 2004 12:38
Quote:

On 2004-08-28 16:19, -=InfinitEnds=- wrote:
Is this Vision and Candy any good?





one of the best releases in psy scene in progressive trance/house genre ....


it is not cheesy Tisto house you should check it
Panzer


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Posts :  188
Posted : Aug 29, 2004 21:39
[quote]
On 2004-08-29 12:38, Sektor666 wrote:
Quote:


one of the best releases in psy scene in progressive trance/house genre ....

it is not cheesy Tisto house you should check it



When will people understand that one of the main charms of goa, at least for me, was that it used to be totally unlike conventional trance and house music / scenes. I simply don't want it to be influenced by those anymore as there are far more interesting and less commercial genres available to borrow ideas from...
Sektor666
Inactive User

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Posts :  439
Posted : Aug 29, 2004 23:00
maty

i meant something different by my words so i will rephrase ....

there is progressive scene
Labels : Virgin , Varpour , Electribe
Artists : Sasha , Bonham , Infusion

there is a past psychedelic progressive scene
Labels : Iboga , Hadshot , DS
Artists : Son Kite , VIsion and Canedy , Kruger and Coyle

there is not connection between two of these scenes , different levels of music production , $$ , fame and more more more

also post psy , now progressive labels lost their psyness so it is not ours anymore , maybe some releases still have some psychedelic and also not big huge progressive scene where the quality of releases win the competition ......

so help me to define this style else than i did post psy now progressive ......

it is not goa and not even connected to our forum , maybe only tha Hadshot is part of Cosmophlilia which still psy and other style distributor ......

let's not talk about Vision and Canedy anymore it is great music but nothing connected to our scene ... me remark about them was my personal argue with Clown about psychedelic ideas in Vision and Canedy ..
so let's stop this talk , this is not Goa and not our scene
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