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NeutroN
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Posted : Nov 15, 2004 18:33
IMO psytrance has become very much a gathering for A LOT of drug taking. there are some really dark sides to this scene, as long as you stay on the good side of this you will be fine. There is a lot of scary things going on and which you DO NOT want to see when u r fucked on drugs.

For the ones that go to such parties just with the indent of taking drugs then u are a very sad person who needs help and for those who take it for the reason "I can only have fun while taking this" are even more sad, because it is obvious that they dont like the music, but they like the drug, the music becomes a background factor.           "Great things are only possible with outrageous requests." Thea Alexander
ganjagil
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Posted : Nov 16, 2004 09:02
There is a big difference between going to a trance party for the music and going to a trance party to enjoy some drugs and nice people...For i do not take a lot of drugs but when i go to Trance party i love to induldge in some acid, it's literally a great mixture for me even when i play in a party i really get into it and enjoy every second, i take a very small dose and i am happy with that, even though many time i just smoke a couple of spliffs when i do not find any acid Acid gave me some unique experiences and they were not always during a party so i guess i can say that i do not take or like Extacy now, that shit is dangerous i used to take a lot when i was younger and after you stop taking you pass through depression which is really bad!

So it all depends which drugs we talk about i am an LSD supporter for added energy in a party Of course it's my preference i love every kind of people that come to trance parties as long as they have good hearth and dance then i am with them on the same boat of good music!

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Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Nov 16, 2004 11:21
psssst.. "drugs" made this scene. If it hadent been for the drugs,
we would proberly not have the enjoyment of listening to psytrance today.

Quote:

'See, I think drugs have done some *good* things for us, I really do.
And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a
favor: Go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes, and all
your cd's and burn em'. Cause you konw what? The musicians who've made
all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years...
RRRRRRRRRRRRReal fuckin high on drugs.'

--Bill Hicks 'another dead hero'--







psytones

Krell
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Nov 16, 2004 12:07
Quote Psytones

""psssst.. "drugs" made this scene. If it hadent been for the drugs,
we would proberly not have the enjoyment of listening to psytrance today. ""

Pssssst, drugs are chemicals, they do nothing on their own.
People made this scene, People created the music...

Drugs are just one of many influences.

With kind Regards:-)

Krell
deeplydisturbed
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Posted : Nov 16, 2004 18:51
respect the drug and it will respect you. abuse it and it'll abuse you!
i make it a point to learn about any drug before going ahead with it-the trip, the dose, the effects the after efects. till now i havent found a link that explains what exactly they do to your brain and your body ,both in the long as well as the short run. any information will be greatly appreciated!
peace
Psyberpunk
Psyberpunk

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Posted : Nov 19, 2004 16:13
As Kri says, "Once you've been there enough, you are pretty much permanently there."

i agree ! ;o)) one real trip and the doors are open .. then just need to find the was again ;o))
i think that drugs can be a kind of door to cross from teeneger time to adult .. lot of old tribes were using this ceremonial .. but as say deeplydisturbed: it was with respect of the drug!! " ... not eating and sniffing the most you can just to be "away" ...
sure psy-trance music boost the drugs effect ..... so it's a reason to take less ! ..
my body and mind ask me looong time ago to stop drugs .. and it was hard to stop .. then psy-trance arrive in the early 90th and i realize i didn't need anymore drugs to "explore" .. this music was much enough psychedelick to "switch my brain"
But I will just remind to kids:
be carreful .. . some damage are irreversible !!!!!!!
loot of my friends are no more on this planet to say i'm right on this point (sad... )
some of them are in psychiatrik .. still looping inside their brain after years ...
so drugs can't be an interresting experimentation of the potential of our brain ... but it's not a joke !!

to come back at this topic: i will say in switzerland: usually 3/4 of people are on drugs in parties.. but 80% of my friends (people that are in this scene since the start: are no more on chemicals... but i agree that most of them use some weed to go in the music faster..)

to finish my reply :
a german study say: 3/4 of drugs are use in privat environnement !!! so the drugs use in party is just the "top of the iceberg" !!

MUSIC is My Drug !!
Tris
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Posted : Nov 19, 2004 17:21
Quote:

On 2004-11-16 18:51, deeplydisturbed wrote:
respect the drug and it will respect you. abuse it and it'll abuse you!
i make it a point to learn about any drug before going ahead with it-the trip, the dose, the effects the after efects. till now i havent found a link that explains what exactly they do to your brain and your body ,both in the long as well as the short run. any information will be greatly appreciated!
peace



If you don't know it already, have a look at www.erowid.com
You will have plenty of infos about the doses/effect. And a lot more. Look at K infos for exemple : http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_dose.shtml

Still long term effects studies are not that easy.
First because we will have to wait 20/30 years for people to get older and see how their body/brain react and have studies with statistical value...
Some people say E (ab)user generation could develop early form of Parkinson at 40 or 50... But nobody knows....

Then, because it's illegal, government-backed studies are always questionable : remember the quite alarming study about monkeys on MDMA... they later admited they fucked up and gave something else to the poor animals...
And it's difficult to organise truly independant ones. And even if they find out it's not that dangerous, it might be against the law to say so....

So better be safe and not abuse....
Time will tell...
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