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The Problem With Psytrance (warning, it's a long post)
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panorama
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Posted : Jul 2, 2007 02:56
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too true........sadly
but its worth a try
  Trance is the answer
http://www.pan.dj
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Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Jul 2, 2007 20:24
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Hey pete man you really let it all out! Finally someone who says something real i also experience the same feeling for trance man it's really non existent in the dancefloor its' completely not in tune with nature and there is no energy anymore! Too normal music no exciting sounds i haven't heard a good track from begining to end for a long long long long time!
What to do brother let the course of nature continue and work for a change in the music something new more psychedelic,intense, clean, melodic beautiful sounds and atmospheres!
Good luck bro in whatever you do !
Boom :)
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Mato Grosso
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Posted : Jul 6, 2007 22:00
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On 2007-07-02 20:24, Soul Kontakt wrote:
Hey pete man you really let it all out! Finally someone who says something real i also experience the same feeling for trance man it's really non existent in the dancefloor its' completely not in tune with nature and there is no energy anymore! Too normal music no exciting sounds i haven't heard a good track from begining to end for a long long long long time!
What to do brother let the course of nature continue and work for a change in the music something new more psychedelic,intense, clean, melodic beautiful sounds and atmospheres!
Good luck bro in whatever you do !
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There he goes again Mr ganjagil going to the wrong parties again !
as if your music is psychedelic at all ! LOL
there is a Tiesto party that will be interesting for you ! |
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freemushroom
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 22:27
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""anemic wanna-be Terence McKennas who masquerade their addiction to drugs and their lust for transient, meaningless fun with a bunch of colorful, weird clothes, kitschy accessoirs and a mostly verbally spiritual correct habit, that often comes off a little overblown and out of place.""
This one is very good! 
Well i think you'r right, i myself had the luck to discover trance while it was an undreground movement and man..it was something!! Oh yes it was!
But you know what? It's over.. and i noticed that due to a few things.. like im getting old (so i see the "new-ones" like the invasors and distuptores of order - and some years ago it was me who was the disrupter),
the music isn't the same (or problably i got other musical tastes, other musical moments in my life, wich are great to be honest!!),
partys started to have problems, security problems (car being roben and sh*t like that)
and so one and so one..
So, i listen to some good thing in my stereo, and i try to go to some good festivals in the summer! No more parties, no more adventures to something that doesn't worth it.
And i see myself, happy with the things i have, i things i do know..and remember alone or with my friend the very good moments that wd did experienced in some dance floors all over the world.
We are the lucky ones because we did experienced it when it was good!
So long! |
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Dogon
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 18:22
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There's a lot gone & there's still a lot to come.
There are still many good artists & good humans who are making magical music, a handful of them (exceptions) get a label to release their good psychedelic music & others lack on this front. But there's a lot to come as a part of the 'evolution' of psy culture.
If you know nature & go by the law of nature, everything goes round in circles & evolution is not any different. So the scene is going through a rough phase as of now but it will return to the base for sure.
Reasons for disgrace are already said by Pete in his original post & he did that in a very very nicely using "REAL" words (as things are at the moment); like wannabes Terence McKennas, just losing on ODs, cant get a beat under their feet while at parties, BOOOM BOOM freaks, hippy pranksters wearing coloured UV powered clothes & accessories blah blah....
But eventually we will be back; until then lets play "collective conciousness" & hope for better
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Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Jul 9, 2007 11:41
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You know what the scene will rise up again to what psychedelic really is! To what love for the music really is! Artists from all over the world one day will produce music which will capture our hearth and let us dance in freedom and eternal bliss...It's just not the time yet that's all! I still have hope for this music even though right now it's not my piece of cake but i am sure one day new psychedelic dance music will evolve and there will be the spirituality that we miss!
Boom :)
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Mato Grosso
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Posted : Jul 9, 2007 13:22
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On 2007-07-09 11:41, Soul Kontakt wrote:
You know what the scene will rise up again to what psychedelic really is! To what love for the music really is! Artists from all over the world one day will produce music which will capture our hearth and let us dance in freedom and eternal bliss...It's just not the time yet that's all! I still have hope for this music even though right now it's not my piece of cake but i am sure one day new psychedelic dance music will evolve and there will be the spirituality that we miss!
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Just because you are not successful with your music and you haven’t turned up in Brazil again to SAVE us and to show us what psychedelic music really is ! ( like you said you will) THAT does not mean that there is no GOOD music around does it ?!  |
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duodenumz
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 14:17
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I think the main factors are:
-less acid use (at least where i live)
-piracy
-relative ease of software production
-global lowering of standards in disposable digital era
So you have people who don't really trip but try to make deep, psychedelic music and espouse the psy lifestyle. People who steal most of their music and don't give it the same worth as it once had. People who steal their software and use presets with minor alterations to crank out souless music. People who just want the obvious, the crazy special effect, the "killah" riff or fast BPM.
The amazing part is that there are still many good to great albums releasing. I salute all the artists who went their own way and didn't pander.
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 18:44
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I must say Bravo to the original post. All the reasons posted reflects exactly how I feel. Now I look elsewhere and I sense it slowly coming back. It is hard to find, but the music and the feeling is popping slowly here and there. More mature, more realistic and defenitelly more interesting as the past decade. For me personally I have been progresively disenchanted until I just stopped all together listening to the music or finding the motivation to go to an event. Like I said now i search somewhere else... unfortunatelly to be honest.
About the Duodenumz post:
I think it is not the acid use, but the lack of purpose and the senseless consumption of it.
Technology is not to blame, but how ppl use it. |
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 22:27
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On 2007-07-10 14:17, duodenumz wrote:
I think the main factors are:
-less acid use (at least where i live)
-piracy
-relative ease of software production
-global lowering of standards in disposable digital era
So you have people who don't really trip but try to make deep, psychedelic music and espouse the psy lifestyle. People who steal most of their music and don't give it the same worth as it once had. People who steal their software and use presets with minor alterations to crank out souless music. People who just want the obvious, the crazy special effect, the "killah" riff or fast BPM.
The amazing part is that there are still many good to great albums releasing. I salute all the artists who went their own way and didn't pander.
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That said , being somewhat off topic ,i have to salute Logic Bomb and their Sonic Algebra
Still mastering our minds very well  |
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Magox
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 23:08
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Hope is lost to those who lost hope....
"On the path of spirituality, one ventures to vanquish one’s own faults rather than to judge others" |
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Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Jul 11, 2007 10:53
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lolololol
Boom :)
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celsung
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Posted : Jul 22, 2007 08:50
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On 2007-03-23 17:16, Deus wrote:
I agree 100%.Food for thought for the newer people of this scene.
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If you really want this scene to go completely belly-up just keep telling the newer people that they are too late and missed the party.
It is human nature for people who have been involved in anything for a number of years to say that things are getting worse when they start to lose interest. Couple that with the desire to relive the good ol' days and you have a bunch of old cynics sounding like bitter grandpas, reminding the younger generation again and again that back in their day things were (fill in the blank).
I came into this scene in '99 and already people were saying that it was dead and the spirituality was gone and blah blah blah. Well, what followed were some of the best years of my life and it's a shame that those veterans were too jaded to enjoy it with me.
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Dogon
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Posted : Jul 22, 2007 11:49
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i think the problem is not with Psytrance; problem is with the people who think they are getting older with the scene......
Scene is evolving & offering newer stuff; maybe some not good; some mediocre; some brilliant; some extraordinary and it will go on & on as a thats the evolution process.
Problem is not with psytrance; problem is the with perception towards the evolution.... IMHO
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Starspine
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Posted : Jul 22, 2007 13:12
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i think the problem is not with Psytrance; problem is with the people who think they are getting older with the scene......
Maybe the problem is more like the new generation werent there to appreciate the awesome depth and power of the original scene and only have the new scene as a reference point. Commercialisation is not the same as evolution. I have been going through my old tunes and the variety and creativity that is contained in the old material is absolutely amazing. We are living in a formula driven scene at the moment due to pressure to make a living out of what you do. The quality of the music in terms of production and musicality is unquestionable. The spiritual depth of a lot of it is.
It was an inevitable step in the "evolution" of the scene and its my honest opinion that more artists will emerge with a real voice in the upcoming years. Because the fact of the matter is that the real deep underground vein of psytrance is still the most awe inspiring spine tingling music out there. |
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